doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com J P Sauer and Sohn Sidelock, 1910 (Now with pics)

A pic of the flats would be interesting. Of course there are exceptions and the longarm could have been proved/reproved in 1910 but for the most part the 50,XXX range were manufactured from mid 1890s till at least 1900. Also on the "clock-hand" indicators is the term "Gesetz Geschutz" or registered design. This DRGM was #17913, I'll have to check the date, but it was in the early 1890s and I think it ran for 6 years, or more. It has the look of a "Knock-About" but with a Greener Crossbolt as mentioned and the tubes being weapons grade steel and the sculpted and engraved fences, it just may be a Deluxe version for the Contiental market. From time to time Vintage Sporting in Huntsville, Alabama, http://www.vintagesporting.com/ - 256.534.9292 and he use to peddle longarms on GunAmerica, did have odd parts and I know he has had German receivers and tubes, but the site doesn't work and he may be out of business.


Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

You don't just need a forend, you need and ejector forend!

Wildcatter...your Sauer was likely produced 1894 to 1895 time period. I see that the barrels on your sauer were built using Sauer & Sohns Deutches Reich Patent #70343; The use of which fell out of favor by 1900 or so. Grade or Model of your Sidelock Sauer is unknown at this time as there are no known catalogs which illustrate any of the pre-WW1 Sauer sidelock models produced for the Domestic (German) market. And SDH is quite correct in that you need an Ejector fore end assy for your Sauer. The finding of which will be the proverbial needle in a haystack or perhaps more aptly put: a Needle in a hay field. Good Luk. J. Stephens

What is the mechanisim for these fore arms? Wonder why our samples are MIA?

I have essentially the same gun as yours, also missing a single "clock hand" indicator. If you happen to run up on some I would appreciate your sharing the source with me. My email address is listed in my profile. I susepct this will end up being a hand made replacement item, that's why mine is still missing.

The gun in question doesn't have the D.R.G.M. 17913 stamp; therefore, it may have been made in 1899 or 1900. A D.R.G.M. was good for 6 years and just by looking at the number of Mauser D.R.G.M.s issued in the 1890s and with 54,786 being issued in August of 1895 and 56,504 in March 1896, going backwards in time 17913 would have been in 1892, +/-, and 1898 would have been the end of the reign of D.R.G.M. 17913 for the clock-hand indicator. After that they could have stamped it as a registered design.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Frame serial numbered in 1894 or 1895 and placed in stores. Finished whenever. Jeff Stephens

I realize I need the ejector forend iron. I will have it made from scratch if I can't find a replacement or a parts gun to purchase in a few months. This double is just too pretty to leave in pieces. I'm going to restock it the minute I find the forend hanger. If anyone has any ideas for parts sources, let me know.

I will just fabricate the clock hand indicatior and screws that I lack if I can't get them from Sauer.

I'll post pics of the flats, water table tonight or tommorrow.

Thanks.

Wildcatter