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Mike,
 Fascinating.  I only knew of 2 people capable of doing that work, both German.  I wonder if it has passed proof?  Is it for sale?
 
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I don't know anything about it.  It doesn't even say what caliber it is.  Oscar spoke about some cheaper hammerguns having the locks made out of a mix of metals and I believe I've seen at least  one.  They don't have the tight pattern to them they look more like they were made of different types of metals folded together.  The locks only had patina, I'd like to have seen them browned. |  |  |  
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Isn't "damasat" more like powdered metal than hammer welded alloys?  I think I read in a knife publication that the powder is forged into billets, then ground or machined, as I recall. |  |  |  
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I find it interesting but not all that attractive, tight Damascus patterns on barrels are a thing of beauty because they are even patterns. On Damascus knife blades the flow of the pattern usually relates to the shape of the blade, horizontal flow. On the above action, few pieces relate the flow of the pattern to the lines of the action. 
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I don't find the rifle all that attractive and I usually like German rifles.  I think it says that you can order one in any caliber from the .22 hornet to the 9.3x74R.
 vom 22 Hornet bis hin zum 9,3x74R
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Isn't "damasat" more like powdered metal than hammer welded alloys?  I think I read in a knife publication that the powder is forged into billets, then ground or machined, as I recall. Terry, Manfred Sachse and Heinz Denig have produced damascus that will handle high pressures.  Sachse replicated the old methods of pattern welding iron and steel physically from billets.  He eventually was able to "weave" names into the damascus.  Denig used a combination of modern steels, like the knife makers use today.  Denig produced at least one gun that was submitted for proof. Damasteel is as you describe, a powder process:http://www.google.com/patents?id=nKIMAAAAEBAJ&dq=damasteel I know there are makers in the USA who can also produce damascus barrels, eg Jud Brennan.  For the most part, they make muzzle loaders with their barrels. I am not 100% which method this maker is using.  My German is not good at all. Pete |  |  |  
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Hello recoil:Folded metal pattern is world wide in metalsmithing!Mokume is used in jewelery and metal smithing,it is thin metals folded,heated to Red hot and hammered all to Hell!!More hits the better,until cooling stops any processing.I am in process to decorate the flat sides of some Stevens favorite actions,with folded metal panels.Most any metals can be used in combo,even ferrous and non ferrous. Alumium might be the exception for standard metals,but why would anyone used AL for decro? Dick Stack |  |  |  
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I find it interesting but not all that attractive, tight Damascus patterns on barrels are a thing of beauty because they are even patterns. On Damascus knife blades the flow of the pattern usually relates to the shape of the blade, horizontal flow. On the above action, few pieces relate the flow of the pattern to the lines of the action. What Rob said. Regards, Joe 
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