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Here's a nice project gun if the barrels are okay on it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=119088008

Looks like Stan Baker has it listed.

I just love those off face, badly re-stocked project guns. That gun was a project before it was abused and dressed in that hideous stock. Now it needs to be recycled. 300.00 seems high.

Have never heard of "Bentley and Playfair" before. Anyone have information on this maker?

Does the beavertail forearm look to be original?

Jerry none of the wood is stock. B&P sold some good guns but I don't think they made any.

Stan Baker project gun? The bores are likely to be his favorite .800.

One thing about it I'll bet Stan Baker could give you accurate bore dimensions.

A buddy at my gun club has two Bentley and Playfairs a box lock like that one pictured and a hammer gun both are nice quality guns.
I think his box lock is a Webley Screw Grip Action.

PS...Ky Jon you really think $300 is too high. I sure hope you get a camera for Christmas this year....we can't wait to see pictures of all your project guns.

$100.00.?..the action appears to have been buffed on with a wheel during the re-blue, damaging the engraving....wood is kindling (Fajen type junk), loose action may or may not tighten during cc @1350 F.....? Probably re-pin....? When you're all done, I don't think you would have much because of the extra wear.....you could probably buy a round robin plane ticket to Gatwick and be money ahead...!

A Birmingham clunker hardly worth the effort. For few hundred more one can get perfectly functional French gun equal to that past best if used by date thingy.
What is it with you boys and those English guns? Is it the fact that they speak same tongue in a weird kinda way?

Have seen more worthy looking guns, on the pile, awaiting remelt, at the Mayors buyback programs.....

But alas tis Christmas...so who'll give the old girl a home??

You're loosing your edge JoE.

He just has a DNA connection to the British - I guess ??

Maybe jOe wants to show us the error of our ways. He can buy this gun and restore it to its former low end status. This gun was never anything that special.

Many people see a little engraving and go crazy on these old British guns. When made the best British guns got about 5 pounds worth of engraving. About 5-10 % of the gun value if lucky. We see engraving and run up the value 50%. A very good investment, it turns out.

Review it again. Off face. Bad restock. Poor refinish of metal. Bet those barrels are getting thin to boot. That gun is a mistake waiting to be bought. It is not even good looking, with that stock and should not be hung over a fireplace. I will say it again, $300.00 is too much for the trouble that gun will be to fix back into a decent gun, if at all possible. Go for it jOe. Please take plenty of pictures of both your money wasted and the gun you end up with. That is too up hill for my taste. Merry Christmas to you jOe.

No camera under the tree ?

Look at the rest of this guy's guns on gunbroker. There isn't anything that isn't at least 50% overpriced.

Which is inline with 95% of the guns on the auction sites.

Bentley and Playfair and later Hollis, Bentley , and Playfair were gunmakers to the trade in Birmingham. They did make a few guns with their own name and their London address. They advertised all qualities of guns. Below is a higher quality. I would guess their production might have been second to Scott and Webley and Scott in total Production.