All I know is what I have learned from working for a living- WTF is the difference in a vernier if you call it a dial readout or a digital readout-performs the same function. You guys like to rag on me for reasons, which if I had half the ascribed wisdom of King Salomon the Baby Slicer, I could never fathom. Here's what it is, as to my knowledge of machine shop, welding (TIG, SMAW, MIG) and basic metallurgy-
I have been a "biker" since HS-now ride a 2001 Softail Harley- I am not a "gang-banger", don't wear any "colors" and when I visit Sturgis in mid-August I know enuf not to: take fotos, touch anyone's ride BUT- I am accepted because I have TIG welded beaucoup frames for choppers- Bikers don't know squat about guided bend tests (root or face) or ASTM or hydrogen embrittlement or what a HAZ is, and why it is critical to a good solid weld- If I didn't have my *&^% together doing work for a critical "audience" like hard-core bikers, you wouldn't have old Foxie around to rag on. These guys don't suffer fools lightly when it comes to their rides-
There are others here who probably know way more about Model 12's and Model 70's than I do-but I know enough to satisfy me-and WTF again- they are MY weapons, so if I want to shoot steel loads in a M12- 12 gauge, they are my guns and my choice.
Try to offer some insight as to what 50 years of serious bird and waterfowling has taught me, and I get ripped. But it is the Holidays, peace on earth and goodwill and all that-
Market Hunter-why are you so interested in my POS Mossenburgher- you can't wear them out- used by SWAT, SEALs, SF and other "high risk" units-why?? because they are so friggin' reliable- and the HE Fox- you are a Parker man, right? So If I, like the late Nash B. in his later years, decided that an almost 11 lb. 32" barreled 12 gauge Magnum was getting "a tad heavy", I decided to sell it, and I bought a 28 gauge M12 for my current Lady to use next Fall.
And about Model 12's on this "Double Gun Shoppe"- why did Dave Weber open up a new section for single shot rifles- and double express rifles? If a pre-1963 Model 12 ain't a "fine gun" then a Steinway Concert Grand ain't a "fine piano"!! Joyeux Noel anyway--
Last edited by Run With The Fox; 12/26/08 01:49 PM.