Stick a sprig of Holly up where "da sun don't shine" Slick. I said I had a machine shop background (Thanks to my GrandFather_ and when I started in his shop in the 1950's I learned to use AMERICAN made micrometers, verniers w/o and dials or read-outs. I didn't say I was a "friggin tool & die maker like you-when do you plan to retire from "Beecher Tool & Die"- soon, I would guess. I welding to both API and ASTM codes in power plants and pipelines first, later learned the TIG (that's TUNGSTEN INERT GAS-old timer that taught me called it HELI_ARC) and obtained my journeyman's card (UAW)- welding the three basic types of die steel: AIR, OIL and WATER Hardening grades- so don't give me your cheap *&^% about not knowing tools, their nomenclature, or whatever stick a bee up your bonnet about my postings herein. Three things I know fairly well: Welding (ferrous and non-ferrous) Winchester Model 12's and Model 70's, and vintage Harley's- the rest is just "extra frosting on the cake"- If you would spend more of your time actually reading my posts with an open mind, instead of a prejudice against me, we both might (real stretchy here) learn something, as I have from Old Joe and Don Moody and Eight-Ball, re: Model 12's, and obliquely, the great Model 21 (which I can't afford)-

Best example of my position here- Market Basket Hunter was once asked on this web thingy to detail his assumed vast knowledge or Parker guns, as he shoots beaucoup Parkers in the 12 and 10 "Big 'Uns- for waterfowl- unless I mis-read his reply, if so, my apologies, as he seems to be "for real" and not a flake like you- he said something like this: "What I know about the innards of the Parkers you could print on a postage stamp, I just shoots 'em is all."

Who cares if I call my verniers: either sweep dial or later series digital readouts- or even "brillingstompers'- as long as I don't confuse them with C-clamps or standard anvil micrometers, and read them accurately and build to exact print dims. what's the friggin' diff?? Get a life, and give up trying to ride me hard-you'll ended up "Bucked in the O-K corral"..


"The field is the touchstone of the man"..