Jim, I'm just glad that there are guys like you that realize what's going on here and elsewhere. There are some very interesting articles in the new American Rifleman detailing the concerted effort to keep gun control discussion under wraps this past election cycle and to portray Obama as pro Second Amendment. The NRA provides a link on their website to a page from the Obama website outlining their plans to infringe on gun-owners rights. That page has since been taken down, but can still be seen on the NRA site. It is sad that so many grown men think that for the first time in history, a leopard will change it's spots. Certainly, my job and my 401-K was impacted by the plunging economy and surging inflation. Still, I was not ready to sacrifice my guns for the promise that these scam artists would actually improve my economic future. Maybe I just have faith in myself, that I can always find another job if need be. But I fear that when we lose the Second Amendment, we, or our children, or our grandchildren will not enjoy those rights again. So when you or I or others try to point out here that the death by a thousand cuts is beginning...whether by restricting semi-autos or imposing lead ammo bans, the cockroaches will come out and cry to Dave that our discussion has nothing to do with doubles. They will call us trolls and say we are ruining this forum. Just remember that British gun restrictions made British doubles more affordable to us. When our guns become similarly demonized and regulated here, where will we sell ours? And what will they be worth? How much will you shoot your double when lead is banned and demand for bismuth drives the cost to $10.00 a shell? Supply and demand baby. Jim, I know I'm preaching to the choir here... I just hope Mr. Dave is listening in.