Unfortunately, the posters on this thread don't seen to be familiar with the content of the original thread. If they had read (or remembered the content of) the original thread, they would have known that the shooter of the Baker has not mentioned dismantling and weighing the remaining shells, measuring the wall thickness of the Baker bore, chamber, or forcing cone area, or done much else to diagnose the problem. One poster on this thread brought up the primer in the powder charge possibility, a possibility that was discussed on the previous thread and discussed by email with a poster. A poster on this thread also claimed that a primer cannot drop into the powder charge in a PW loader, an absolutely incorrect assumption. In an email conversation with one of the posters, I explained that this can happen and also explained how. The poster who blames the PW for double powder charging is describing a phenomenon that can happen in any loader if the powder is damp, affected by static electricity, or bridges in the tube for any reason. The only way a double powder charge can be thrown in a progressive PW other than the three ways I mentioned is if the operator experiences a problem and unwisely decides to "back up" the loader, possibly causing a second powder charge to enter the tube. This is a bit unlikely, since more shot is also likely to enter the shot tube at the same time. It is real hard to "back up" a PW loader without creating havoc with the ratcheting mechanism and the limited capacity of the shell. KYjon tells the unlikely story of stopping on a heavily travelled two lane bridge to throw a sixty pound piece of steel over the side of a bridge with small craft traffic as well as shipping traffic below. If he had been observed by law enforcement, he would still be in the Queen Annes County lockup. Well, maybe not still there, but at least until his attorney arrived. I don't believe the story. I imagine he is referring to my friend Jim Cunningham as the PW guru that could not diagnose his problem before he sent the loader to PW. Jim Cunningham has probably loaded more shells on PW loaders than I have, but not by many. I have probably loaded between 350,000 and a half a million on the six I am now using. I have also been loading on PW loaders for longer than Jim has. I have a pretty good idea how they work and how to diagnose problems. Although Jim and I spend more than a few days together every year, and have for about twenty five years, I have never had to call on him or the PW factory mechanics to fix a PW loader or diagnose a problem. I have been willing to participate in the threads about the Baker blowup although I have mentioned that the discussion would make a lot more sense if the shooter would dismantle and weigh the components of his remaining shells and do some measurements on the remaining pieces of his gun. OK, my rant is over and I apologize to any posters I may have offended, especially my friend KYjon.