The problem was threads about guns sliding into posts of ignorance, myths and superstition, an amazing amalgam of politics, religion and jingoism, not to mention an abuse of members. There are no restraining injunctions here on expression or the arcane concerning our fraternity. Dave has discriminated prudently by providing for those who want to explore the esoteric with a special room. The uninitiated will stay where we are. We'll peek in from time to time to see how you're doing.