Yea, I was thinking that the crimping stages needed to be shimmed. This Load-all is pretty simple and cheap. So if I screw it up i`ll be forced to buy something better. I just wanted to get some shells going. The suspence is killing me. Last weekend I did some Snipe hunting with the double i`m trying to reload for using the Westly Richards Classic Game Loads. They we`re pretty mild and I was able to hit some birds with it. So now i`m hook fer sure. I`ve been using my 1952 Ithaca 37 12ga. pump. This double is a whole new ball game. I thought my model 37 had a nice light swing until I hunted with the double.