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Thank you Sub-Gage. I thought about that, but as the 3 and 1/2" inch "Roman Candles" are used only in our late Winter Bonus season (come up- we have a five per day limit for 30 days, starts right after New Years, and the first two days (always opens on a Saturday I believe) we have a 4 mallard/day "Bonus Bag". I live near three major river areas that seldom flood over, the lakes and ponds of course are, and the Geese are after all the picked corn fields they can find for forage. With corn at an all-time high, most of my area farms are planted very heavy into corn-

I only want two shells in that Black P.O.C. Mossenburgher when I am pass shooting with the 3 and 1/2" shells- cheaper, as you don't have a third round to "possibly waste", and as I used to use a Fox HE (NOT with 3 and 1/2" steel though) I am used to what I call the "Bang-- Bang---pause, then THUMP", if there is no "loose nut behind the stock of course". That 835 is one black ugly "collection of parts that fires shells" BUT- with the overboaring (almost mikes at a 11 gauge) and the ported barrel, plus I added some lead shot in the hollow butt cavity ( a la my 2 M12 "Maggies"- recoil ain't bad-plus you are wearing all the Carhartt and Dickies and Eddie Bean/L.L. Bauer you can find-that late season can sure "seperate the men from the boys"- But thanks for the idea and the concept_ sounds like you might be a tool and die man, or in skilled trades-and you know your shotshells- as a 3" magnum doesn't measure 3" until it has been fired and the crimp opened up completely. RWTF

I do have an English gun that was converted from muzzleloader to breechloader. It has 14 bore barrels and 16 bore chambers and the thin wall 16 gauge MagTech brass shells easily hold 13 bore wads. Also no crimp so no fiddling with extra wads or cheerios or pinto beans (fillers).

And I get a big bang out of the big bang and the smoke and the nostalgia.

I used them today in a 1905 sixteen gauge Parker and shot several birds. When I see the bird exit the smoke screen folded up it gives me a thrill. Or when the dog finds and retrieves the dead bird I wasn't sure I hit it gives me a little kick.

Thanks everyone for replying and I think I will give the shellac thinner a try.

I will report back my results.

Thanks again.

Stan, I'll answer your question--I'm familiar with the gun. Mike,s Purdey began life in 1847 as a 14 gauge muzzleloader. In the mid-1880's it was returned to Purdey to be converted to a 16 gauge breechloader. Since the bore was rather large Purdey decided the best way to go was to chamber it for brass 16 gauge thin walled hulls and load oversize wads in it. (This is all in the Purdey records). In other words, it was the only way they could find to make the conversion work.

Incidently, I find the gun very interesting. In the conversion Purdey saved the barrels, locks, buttplate, and triggerguard. They literally whittled out an action to fit the barrels--and it's a beautiful piece of work, though heavily used. Can we imagine in today's world someone finding it cost effective to completely hand make an action to save a set of barrels? I can't even comprehend what a different world it was 120 years ago.

Thanks Mike and Joe for the explanation. Very interesting.

YEars ago , I used waterglass and I do not know where to buy it now. Where do you find it? I have been using Elmers Glue now and it works just fine

Stallones I ordered it at:

http://www.cheap-chemicals.com/

This is the item #:

CH8287

Here is the website description:

Sodium Silicate

(Waterglass) [Na2O•2SiO2] Clear solution

Comes in 1 quart, screw-top metal can.

Used in cements, textile and lumber processing. Sodium silicate is used, along with magnesium silicate in muffler repair paste. It can be used in older automobiles to seal leaks in the cooling system. Sodium silicate was also used as an egg preservation agent in the early 20th Century with large success. Used as a timber treatment for pressure-treated wood. Used to treat concrete to help to significantly reduce porosity in most masonry products such as concrete, stucco, plasters. It is a useful binder of solids, such as vermiculite and can be used to make hard, high-temperature insulation boards used for refractories, passive fire protection and high temperature insulations. It’s also used in soaps as an alkali. Also used as an old-time wadding seal for shotgun shells.

USA Shipments Only, Cannot Be Exported
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But don't order any. I am going to put a quart in the mail to you tomorrow.

Thanks!

Mike

I'd be real careful water glass is very hazardous to your health.
I was under the impression it was used more to water proof the over shot card.

Thanks Mike,
I received it this morning. !

Mike,
How is the little 16 ga Purdey doing and are you loading BP in brass cases for it or smokeless?. I took it Quail hunting one time with some Fiocchi 2 1/2x1,and Maybe killed 2 Quail. Sure glad it has a good home. And thanks again for the Waterglass.

Leighton you are very welcome.

And I have been shooting brass cases with blackpowder in the gun with some success on quail. Have had a lot of fun with it.

I have been using some of the Alcan wads you sent me. And I am going to load the brass hulls you sent me next week.

Thanks again,

Mike