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Kerryman #120338 11/06/08 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kerryman

To call Obama a Marxist is arrant nonsense..


Herein lies the problem.

There is sufficient documentation that proves you are wrong.:

On the matter of his relationship with Ayers, take the trouble to read this duly documented article:
Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

For more enlightenment: Saul Alinsky

Something that really shows his ideology is BO's close ties with ACORN. Here is just a sample of what they do: ACORN's Nutty Regime for Cities Pay attention to the NY Schools episode.

Unfortunately the gun issues are just the tip of the iceberg.

He will surely go at it slowly and cautiously and use the very accurate "lobster in the pot of cold water syndrome" mentioned by Brian in another post. But the socialist/marxist agenda is there. They now go about it with stealth as very well put here: Political Correctness - The Revenge of Marxism

God Bless America.

JC


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Kerryman #120345 11/06/08 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kerryman
I am very pro America.


Clearly false, as you have clearly proved here with your arrogant and disrespectful posts. With friends like you, Americans don't need enemies.


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JayCee,
It is pointless and rude to prolong political debate on a Shooting board and I see little point in doing so. The sources you quote are very slanted (if not downright biased ) and are from the far Right. An undergraduate at any of the colleges here would get an F were they to hand in the erroneous diatribes that you have quoted as valid sources.

For an example of an attempt at juvenile propaganda take the paragraph “The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.” This clearly tries solidify a tenuous Ayers link to Obama and imply that Obama supports the violent past of the Weathermen. Any editor worth that name would question the structure of that paragraph. Obama said “the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense.”

Also, when Palin made a similar claim, Obama, on Oct. 8, when questioned by ABC News' Charlie Gibson said:This is a guy who engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois. ... And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that ... I've 'palled around with a terrorist', all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points.

You can research the topic in factual unbiased media here-
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html

As for quoting the website "Gates of Vienna" as a valid source, well, it and the so-called Baron Bodissey are such a joke they merit their own parodies – a good one is here http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/12920.html

At this stage this has descended to crap if those are the only sources that can be thrown at me.This topic is about to start impinging on my work, which means I cannot shoot Saturday if I keep replying to nonsense and slanted journalism. That is NOT going to happen.

You have a new President elect who, unlike the last guy, has the admiration (for now) of the free world. That’s good enough for me. The vitriol of the many who posted personal comments on me, my background, parents, education and my views shows them for what they are. (Actually their content, spelling and punctuation does that for them!)Water. Ducks. Back. Those who debated with me and did not descend to the gutter continue to have my respect and hand of friendship.

I am not going to post on this topic again.
K.

Kerryman #120365 11/06/08 06:48 PM
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Quote:
"I am not going to post on this topic again."

K.

Welcome relief from the fantasy world of the extreme left wing liberal. I expect some of the outright B. S. they've posted here will come back to haunt them in 6 mos. to a year. assuming we still have access to a free and unregulated Internet.

The walls with guns for sale at my local club are essentially bare which is somber testimony that most if not all the residents of my area don't believe the B.S. either.
Jim


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James M #120378 11/06/08 07:38 PM
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Kerryman Quote:
"I am not going to post on this topic again."

What one says when he clearly has proven WRONG and is to stupid or gutless to admit it.
kerryman- an arrogant, antiAmerican, liberal,coward, who should have thought of that before he attempted to force his puke where he does not belong the first time!

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Kerryman #120382 11/06/08 08:25 PM
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Kerryman,

Talk about juvenile. Why didn't you quote this from Stanley Kurtz's article:

"The Daley documents show that Mr. Ayers sat as an ex-officio member of the board Mr. Obama chaired through CAC's first year. He also served on the board's governance committee with Mr. Obama, and worked with him to craft CAC bylaws. Mr. Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Mr. Obama. Mr. Ayers spoke for the Collaborative before the board. Likewise, Mr. Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the Collaborative."

But Obama says he hardly knew Ayers, "just someone from the neighborhood".
And you say they had a tenuous link when it is documented they sat on the same board. Great argument.

I now realize you haven't read what I so childishly posted. At least not open to the facts therein made clear. Pity, I had thought better of you.

Giving you facts is pointless indeed.

JC


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JayCee #120393 11/06/08 09:12 PM
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BTW, "Sadly, No! is a liberal/progressive humor site based in Germany..." This from their own webpage.

Of course, "liberal/progressive". What else.

No arguments anywhere. Facts? None.

JC


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JayCee #120398 11/06/08 09:43 PM
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Kerryman;
"You have a new President elect who, unlike the last guy, has the admiration (for now) of the free world. "

Lets see the S&P is down close to 10% in two days with the prospect of "bankrupting coal companies",higher cap gains,and the most liberal of all B Hussain Obama comming into power.The markets around the worl are fairing no better.

Seems to me the failed Obama presidency is here now !


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Dave K #120413 11/06/08 10:12 PM
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When I'm abroad, I'm damn proud to be an American, but I am totally embarrased of President Bush. Sometimes I think he is purposefully trying to wreck everything in his sites. Now that the elections is done, I'm trying to suck it up and I HOPE that our new president elect can and does a good job. But I have some serious concerns.

Tim

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Small Bore said, "Bush has been an embarrassment on the world stage and America's estimation in the world has plummeted under his inept administration."
Whose embarassed? Regular Americans aren't. And by the way, we wish our "estimation in the world" would plummet quite a lot more! Maybe all these illegal aliens would quit risking their lives, and breaking our laws to gain entry into this embarrassed, plummeted, country.......Sheesh!!! Get Real!!!
And "Obama the Amateur" sure ain't gonna regenerate much......
Grant.

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