Dick the 12's weight is listed as being anywhere from 6-10 up to 9 lbs., nothing listed for the 16. It would be nice to be able to guarantee 8lbs if one was planning to use it for waterfowl w/ 3" heavy loads.

As a dedicated upland gun the 16's fixed chokes don't bother me but on the 16 I don't need the removable recoil pad setup and would like to be able to get it without ejectors to get the weight down.

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