The Pigeon Gun topic...Ian re your email.Notice the;Depth of the Detonating on all 3 of these Pigeon 12bores, so the length of the Firing pinis 'Much longer than a "Light Game Gun". Also the weight of the complete gun with 2 Loaded Shells is something I take into consideration when Balancing the gun after building a 'NeW' stock, I shot all 3 three of these 'Masterpieces'The Boss 3" was a "Reacher-Outer"!! The Late and Great Jack Mitchell was Smokin Clays at Addiville Farms Sporting Clays Facility so far out.......Honest Injin! Geoff Gaebe said he set a New Distance Record for Breaking Clays!!!Also notice the Side-Clips' on the Boswell & The 'Joe Lang'(I think side-clips is another Purdey term, But I will stand corrected if 'McIntosh is WRONG!!!!! Older Doc' Ray StLedger did a nice job with the Re-Colour-Case Hardening! Glad I didn't slip with the Draw-Knife when I was 'Making-Off the 'OLD Tyessier French Blank!!!C/C