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Humpty Dumpty,

To change subject somewhat, sometime back in 1990s I saw a Russian evening TV program (Vraimya?) about Stalin's "vacation" bunker in Samara area. In that program was mentioned a pistol range inside Stalin's bunker and that a local shooting club had tried to convert it into a public range, with hope that its being in Stalin's bunker would increase interest in shooting there. However, because all the copper electrical cables had long since been stolen and the bunker was becoming flooded, the conversion to a public shooting range was financially a non-starter. Do you know anything about current status of Stalin's bunker?

What is current status of shooting clubs in Samara region?

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Some years ago, when the "Soviet Union" unraveled, I worked in Lithuania on a project for the Lith Govt. I found the country beautiful, the people great (one of my co-workers married a Lith girl) and I have always wanted to go back.....Don't knock places you havnt been...

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NiklasP - they got it mixed up somewhat. There is the Stalin's Bunker, true built in 1942, when all government offices and foreign embassies (including the US) were moved from Mocsow to Samara (then called Kuibyshev) for fear the Nazis mught take the capital. Stalin himself, to give him credit, stayed in Moscow even through the darkest days of the 1941, when Nazis were withing artillery range from Kremlin. Yet the idea of having a spare capital stayed, and they began constructing what came out to be the deepest bomb shelter in Europe (it can withstand a direct hit of an atomic bomb). It consists of a conference room, two rest rooms, and two big rooms for the guards. The rooms are made with fake doors and windows, to make it look like you're actually on the ground, only it's dark outside. The biggest mistery is the construction, in the very center of the city, has been kept in absilute secret - even the residents of adjoining houses were not aware! Since 1941 it's been open to public, and no visit around the city is copmlete without it, but there's no pistol range there. Why would anyone want a range in a bomb shelter?

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> Since 1941 it's been open to public

Are you sure about that?


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Sorry - I meant 1991, of course! :):):)

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Thanks Humpty Dumpty,

Somewhere I should still have a taped copy of that TV broadcast, IF I can find it after several moves. My recollection about reason for pistol range was for regular practice for the guards. Hope I can find that tape and correct or confirm my memory.

There are numerous such deep underground facilities for leadership folks, in quite a number of cities in Europe, all dating from WW2 time. Would love to visit the one in Samara, IF I ever get back to Russia again.

Long ago the Swedes experimemted with various ways of decorating walls of such underground facilities so as to lessen the feeling of being in a deep hole in ground. Fake doors and windows, even with nice views, was one effective method.

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Geno: What do the Russians think about Boris Stéfanovitch Riabouchinsky?
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20020453

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I guess Russians do not know this French painter-animalist.


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This painting technique has been used for centuries. It is trompe l'oeil, pronounced tromp loy. Fool the eye.
Google it. Very neat !!!

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Speaking of what and how we hunt, here's a short story I once wrote, in English, describing a sort of a typical duck hunt here. Posted it on another board, lookes like nobody liked that... let's see if you folks will it's even got a couple of double guns in


He was right at the edge of the village, an old man in everyday country clothes, desperatly pumping air into a hopelessly flat bicycle tyre. There was no question where he was headed - slung over his shoulders was an old hummer double, the kind that sold for half the everage monthly wage, brand new, thirty years before. We pulled over and offered him a lift to the lake.

There were no questions asked or answered, safe for a thankyou and some brief introductions. The sun, normally for our place in late August, shone mercilessly as our car (which had no air conditioning) raised clouds of dust off the unpaved filed road. The sight of the lake caused a collective sigh of relief.

The lake was nothing but a big shallow depression in the otherwise level steppe, some clear water in the middle, bordered by a belt of tall cattails. A few shallows, made by spring water flowing into the lake, run down the banks. There was little vegetation, save for a line of bushes clutching for life on the bottom of the shallows. The side where we broke camp was a pasture, grazed flat off the grass by some cattle, which was happily not present at the moment.

We eased out of the car, "have a bite?" - "no thanks" - "a beer?" - "mmm... Okey". Breaking camp properly, with tent and all, seemed like it could wait. The stuff came flowing out of the trunk: shotguns, ammo, waders. The opening of the waterfowl season was less than an hour away.

It was then that I noticed that the old man seemed to have little gear. He had the gun, and his pockets producer the unmistakable dingle of shells. But he had just regular working shoes. How he was going to get into water? I wondered.

"We're staying overnight" - said one of us - "you're welcome to our camp, if you don't care to walk back into the village"

"Thank you" - said the old man - "I might"

He checked his gun and went off. He was walking up the bank, heading directly at a spot where one of the bushy shallows met the edge between the benk and the level steppe.

I wondered again.

We pulled on our waders and walked down the cattle track through the cattail jungle. After some mud-trapped walking, we came closer to the middle of the lake, where the vegetation gave way to increasingly bigger clearances. The first were dry; then we reached the water and split.

Ducks were flashing by flocks, heading for the other bank. I fremembered not to shoot them on the rise, you never know where another hunter may be. The lake, indeed, was surrounged by hunters - as the ducks reached the other side of the big pool in the middle, someone opened up. More shots followed, other birds were escaping from the opposite bank and comimg to us. I rushed to where I planned to stand.

Just then a single mallard came in. I fired and watched it fall behind the cattails. I rushed after the bird - but when I came to a muddy clearing where it fell, but found only the spot where it fell, crowned by a few feathers, and a chain of webbed legprints leading to a perticularly impenetrable wall of cattails.

I cursed and rushed back to the old place. I was sweating and out of breath after wading knee-deep in mud, my hands were shaking. I missed a duck - than another and another. Then one of my shots connected - and the bird fell within a step of where my Dad stood. I walked to get in and found myself on the edge of the big main pool.

The ducks were circling the lake, gaining more and more height with every shot. Flock after flock gave the lake up and made for a safer place. I noticed, in surprise, that escaped not at random directions, but followed a number of certain roots. One of those seemed to be leading right to the shallow where the old man had gone. A half-muted report came from that direction, then another.

I wondered...

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