Mark, I think that system shows a lot of intelligence on Owen's part. I just wish he had done the same with Parker or Fox shotguns. MP, you're going to have to give me some time on the Curtis 20 gauge. I may not have the hard copy of the catalog. It was within the last year. However, if you see the gun, you will know it. It has PAC engraved on it somewhere, can't remember where.