Glenn-

Don't know if you remember you and I talking about voate barrels a couple of years ago, but I have learned soem more since then. DOn't know about forging to shape in the old days, but have talked to 2 gunamkers who have worked on them and can recreate them.

One was Nate and he worked on some when he was at G&H. He and I talked about set-ups and methods for making them.

Also talked to Ralph Martini about this and 1/2oct 1/2 rnd bbls. He was VERY helpful and taought me a lot. I also got to handle a barrel Ralph made when I was visiting a certain gunmaker in Waukegan one day this past May. The barrel was not a true ovate, but was even more complex than that.

I also know that Ralph and Martin restored an old H&H SS with an ovate barrel last year or the year before, so he deifnitely studied at least one up close and personal.

I still have that huge Kreiger blank for my project but just can't get over the latest injury.

I have an old German 1/2 oct 1/2 rnd bbl here if you want more pics of anything in particular.


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