Dave, the 2 i ordered i finally picked up yesterday (free delivery to the nearest cabelas deal). the pockets on the inside of the ones you got - the longer, smooth leather version - are different from the short ones. i like it and can use it but just barely. i stuck my auto-5 magnum 20 in it and the barrel just barely fit in the pocket for it. i didn't try a 12 (or any double) but i don't see how a 12 anything could possibly fit. the buttstock pocket is better than the one on the short cases and the internal arrangement is better as the case stays nice and flat. and you don't reeeeeally need a pocket for both barrel and stock; the barrels can just lay in the case next to the hinge side and the stock is well protected anyway.

still, it's one of those things where they could have been outstanding if done only slightly differently. it's almost like someone knowing nothing about guns grabbed one gun and used it as the pattern to build the case around. they're not adaptable over a real wide range of stuff. i still like both types and can use them but they're sort of dedicated to specific guns.

roger