I'm sorry, but the "do it yourself" Bird just can't compare with a nice Butter-ball store bought Turkey. I fought that fight for years, insisting that my Spring season trophies would be the guest of honor every Thanksgiving and Christmas. Roasted, smoked, fried, or whatever my wife and family have finally convinced me. We still enjoy the wild birds, but I don't insist on inflicting them on the extended family at the Holidays anymore...Geo