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Actually Bill I don't have the large 1954 catalogue. I have the large Winchester catalogue date February 2, 1950, a large Wincheter catalogue with an October 15, 1952, cover letter, and the large 1955. The one with the 1952 cover letter has the Shotgun Muzzle Devices page. While it doesn't say so, it does picture each of the devices on plain barrels. I looked and looked for that page yesterday and missed it. Had begun to think I was remembering a Remington catalogue.

Thanks for the great responses and the wealth of information. Two Triggers, the forend and pistol grip are checkered, and the pattern and shape of the wood and checkering look identical to a 12 gauge skeet model I've seen, so I'm confident the wood is correct. Run with the Fox, the Winchester proof mark is offset, as you describe. The one issue I see is that the barrel is marked WS-1 for choke, so I guess the Cutts was added after the gun was purchased. Oh well, I'm not in the gun for too much money, and it will be fun to shoot, even if the Cutts was added latter. Now I have to locate more choke ends for the Cutts, it came with only a modified. Again, thanks for the responses !!!!!

Skeet Grade Model 12s in high original condition except for an aftermarket Cutts are the best values on the repeating shotgun market. They shoot great, look good, last a lifetime, and sell for very low prices.

In my 1942 Remington catalogues, they offer the Cutts fitted to Sportsman, Model 11 and Model 31 in 12-, 16-, or 20-gauge with plain, matted rib or ventilated rib barrels. In the 1947 catalogue it is only offered on plain barrels.

Remington also offers the Poly-Choke on these guns but only with plain barrels. "The Remington "Sportsman," Model 11 and New Improved Model 31 shotguns in 12, 16 and 20 gauges are now available with the new Aero-dyne Super Poly Choke built in at the Remington factory. The Poly Choke is made to specifications of the Poly Choke Company but is integral (made in one piece) with the barrel and cannot possibly come loose. This device gives varying degrees of choke in one gun. It is instantly adjustable from true cylinder to full choke by a mere twist of the sleve. The barrel is plain, without rib, and is 28" long including the Poly Choke. Not furnished in any other length or with solid or ventilated rib."

By the October 1950 catalogue the Cutts is offered fitted to vent rib Sportsman 48 and Model 870 shotguns and the Poly choke is offered fitted to Model 870, Model 11-48 and Sportsman 48 with plain barrels only. No more mention of being made integral with the barrels.

aERO-DYNE-?? Huum. Didn't Chrysler or Nash or Hudson have a series of cars back at that same time called Aero-Dyne. If I ever were to write a book on Winchesters (I am not going to) but if so, I'd sure as heck hire you-Researcher- just as James Michener and Thomas Harris pay good $ for accurate and detailed info that can be verified- like old Casey "Stinky" Stengal once said, re baseball stats- "Hey, you can always go look it up in the book somewhere" Trick is-knowing the right book.!!

Even with choke marked barrel that thingy may still be factory installed job. The only way to tell for sure is to look at end label of original cardboard box. I found that original box does help in sale of just about any firearm. Gun folks luv cardboard.

My Remi book has Remington Special Long Range 'Aero-dyne' Polychoke was available since ca. 1940.

When I was in the Remington archives, I found the original drawings for Cutts installations on Model 11-48 barrels. It didn't do me a lot of good to copy those drawings, however, because the 11-48 and the later Models 58, 870, and 1100 were produced without choke marks on Cutts guns, like the Winchesters were. Like always, though, those drawings were copied and are in my files if anyone would like to look. Yup, the Airflow Chrysler, a real chick magnet.

The Chrysler was an Airflow from 1934 to 1937, a bit ahead of their times. The DeSoto was also made in the Airflow series. In 1949 to 1951 it was the Nash Airflyte.

I'm sure that Researcher has a full file of the Ed Zern Nash Airflite ads to post. We'll be looking forward to them.