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Thanks CC- Hemingway (not Hemmingway) was a local legend out in Sun Valley-loved the Snug Bar-I don't have my copy of Carlos Baker's book on "Don Ernesto" handy- but know that same year Hemingway wrote an eulogy poem to a friend- "Best of All He Loved The Fall" but haven't yet found out who- a "newspaper morgue" microphische file search for the Sun Valley Times from that era might disclose something- Hemingway was a chronic alcoholic (like Ruark) and a womanizer- and a Machismo Hombre-but he was no coward- I think if he wanted to shoot someone, it would have been a head on heads up duel- and he would have owned up to a gunning accident= Just my viewpoint- but in "The Hemingway Women" by Bernice Kort 1981 Knopf- she details Hemingway in 1940-41 out there with third wife Martha Gelhorn-and after a late night of drinking- in which he "had words" with a guest- a John something or other- he awoke early (his work ethic habit for years) and saw three Canada Geese out on the lawn, from the upper deck-he grabbed and loaded a Model 12 and fired three shots- dropping one goose- and Marty was awoken- he first words were (allegedly) "Oh my God, Ernest- did you shoot poor old John?" After the tragic suicide on July 2nd. 1961 out in Idaho- for a long time later, his fourth and last wife Mary Welsh was in a severe state of denial- claimed "Ernest was cleaning a gun and it went off by accident"- I heard the family later had the gun- a Boss 12 bore double I believe, destroyed- I guess I wouldn't mind owning a 12 gauge M12 Trap that "Plinky" Topperwein once shot record scores with- but I would not want to own that Boss-any more than I would want to own "Machine Gun Kelly's Thompson 1921 .45ACP "chopper"- Not my interest-RWTF


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RWTF,I just like "Funning" You Yanks'with the writted Language of Olde England".....Keeps you 'Toe-Proud'(Boot-Kamp Senior NCO, for "On Yer Toes Maggot") Kings Royal Rifle Corps. Winchester, England c 1960. The Eulogy Poem you spake of,was wrote by Mr Hem....ingway for his Late Young Friend Gene Van Guilder, who died in the canoe that sad Sunday Morning. A 'Good and Fine'Ref. for the 'True Gen' with excellent Photography by LLoyd R Arnold is "High on the Wild"...So much to learn,So Little Time!(Liza the Powder-Monkey on Nelsons "Victory"...cc/dt

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A terrible tragedy, but entirely preventable with proper gun handling. I got those lessons drilled into my head starting long before I actually got to shoot. And there was no doubt left in my mind that even one mistake would not be tolerated. My Dad and Uncles politely informed me that I would NEVER hunt or shoot with them again if I screwed up even once. It must have worked. However in 1976, my cousin and hunting buddy was killed by a careless idiot while turkey hunting. It's because of such idiots that we must wear ridiculous amounts of blaze orange. Even so, it seems every year we have people shot or killed, even though they may be covered head to toe in flourescent orange. These incidents are called accidents, and the shooters are usually given a slap on the wrist or less. The moron who murdered my cousin lost his hunting license for a year. 25 years later, I met a guy who happened to be hunting with this killer on that fateful day. He related how this guy was very unsafe in his gun handling and made a practice of shooting at sounds and movements without identifying his target. He said he never hunted or associated with him again after he killed my cousin and felt horrible that he hadn't tried to stop this ass years earlier. I feel we should call it what it is... reckless endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon. Put the perpetrator in prison with Bubba as a room-mate and see how quickly these so called accidents decline. In my mind, there is simply no way to mistake a man for a deer or squirrel or turkey.


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Your BBS "thingy" shows Maine (Stephen King's home State)- Sure loved the movie "Breaker Morant- rule .303- also the motto of your SAS RM Commando Unit- Quid Audare, Vincere! Patton would have liked that, he liked Frederick The Great's "Audace, Audace, Tourjours Audace" same thought, different language. The True Gen-Old Don Ernesto was really big on what we were sent to discover on LLRP missions-long time ago-of course, reporting "Gen" and having the REMF's mess with it to suit their "game plan", well remember Montgomery and his FUBARED Airborne/Ground mission into Holland- Market Garden- sort of echoes the wisdom of the Scottish Bard- wee Bobby Burns- about the best laid plans of mice and men-often end up in the Crapper!

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