I can see both sides here fellas- an open breaking shotgun is less of a presumed hazard in that it can't be fired when broken open-Bruce Bowlen in his Wing-Shooting Handbook endorses breaking guns for that reason (1985 Nick Lyons Books pb.) And the idiot with the autoloader pointed a midriff with the bolt closed should be banned from that club, but that still won't keep him from doing it again-somewhere else. At Jay's in Gaylord MI a few summers ago, en route to the cottage-I stopped to get some .22 shells and some paper targets (for my visiting nephews-at a private range near our deer camp- not taking my kin to any public facility until I know how they enforce the safety rules- Some numbnutz was pointing a closed double, waving it around like a Maypole contestant I'd guess-two clerks "manhandled him", took away the shotgun and escorted him out- he was still muttering som,ething about how "It couldn't be loaded, it was in the store"! When my Dad and Granddad gave me a 20 ga. M12 on my 14th. B'Day- GrandDad said "Remember this Boy- any gun is like a rattlesnake- get too cozy and lax in handling it and it can turn on you or others and strike death--Amen!!

Last edited by Run With The Fox; 08/27/08 07:17 PM.

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