I agree with the Superposed lovers. They are great guns and the ones you are looking at were made back before the stamping out parts and cheap computerized engraving. I bought a cased, 12 gauge two barrel set three years ago at the Grand American from Jaqua's for $1799.00 and sold it recently in Louisville for $2500.00. So they are great investments, too. Just stay away from the salt year guns and you will have a great gun to enjoy for many years.