We seem to be discussing, or confusing, two different procedures here.One is the loading position and the other is the carry position.I have no problem with carrying the gun in a muzzle up position but I haven't figured out yet how you keep the cartridges in the chambers if you try to load with the muzzles pointing up,and I ain't going to be hunting anywhere near anyone who has his action close with the barrels in a horizontal position, regardless of whether or not he thinks they are pointing in a safe direction...

Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought stupid,than open it and confirm.