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Anyone have this kind of problem with a superposed safety? The safety latch moves up and down and from side to side for barrel selection but the safety will not disengage and let the gun fire. Sometimes by cycling it repeatedly it will allow the gun to fire and generally as long as I don't reengage it it will shoot fine. When it's reengaged it won't work at all. Just started having this problem Saturday. Any help appreciated. GJ

I'm looking at a Super receiver without the stock on it and it looks like there are two places for your problem to occur. Without getting to details (which I couldn't discuss anyhow), my bet is that trash or lack of lubricant in the inertia block is the problem. With the safety on, the block is allowed to move forward under spring pressure. With the safety on, it's pulled and held back. My bet is that trash has gotten into the slot on the top of the block or into the pivot point on top of the trigger. Either case could prevent the block from moving forward and allow the gun to fire. My bet is that a good cleaning and light oiling will solve the problem easily. Take the stock off, clean the block with solvent, blow the crud out with compressed air, apply some oil, blow again to remove the excess oil and get it into all the crevases, and you should be good to go. Hope this works. If not, it may be that the spring that pushes the block forward is weak or broken. But I doubt that's the problem.

Big J,
I haven't had that particular Super trigger problem but a few other ones. Start by removing the buttstock and giving the action a good cleaning - like with an aerosol cleaner-degreaser. Check out the action for obvious snafus. If a simple cleaning/degunking doesn't fix it I suggest sending it to Arts or MGW, they both do reliable trigger work on supers for reasonable money (MGW fixed mine for $90).

Edit: What he said

I'll give it a go. Hope its just crud. Thanks for the info. GJ

If you use an aerosol cleaner make sure you do a super job of lubeing it because it will be DRY! Don't use a teflon oil on the sears, I owned and used 5 supers and they liked to double when fed teflon.
bill

There is a warning notice about Superposed safeties and I don't know if it has anything to do with your problem but if you move the safety to 'OFF' and if you are able to move the safety from U to O or vice versas, your safety needs to be modified. In any event I certainly would not use the gun until the problem is fixed. -Dick

There are no Browning approved repair facilities in AZ. I've packed it up and am sending it to MWGW. Decided that maybe safeties aren't for me. thanks again for all the info. GJ

I think Dave has nailed your problem. The inertia mechanism is probably gummy and not following the safety to the front(firing position).

Big John, I'm a bit exasperated. You asked a simple question and you got a straightforward answer for solving your problem. There was no risk in trying to solve it other than about 30 minutes of your time, some cleaner, and some oil. But you decided to do nothing and send the gun off for repairs. What did you expect to hear when you posted your question? Some magic words to whisper over the safety to make it work? Guns are a BIT more complicated than that, but there're not rocket science. Did Dick scare you off with his comment about the safety? He's simply wrong; I've had six Supers for 25 years and EVERY one of them allows the barrel to be selected with the safety in the off postition. Next time you think about asking a question, consider whether you really want an answer. There, I feel better already.

That's interesting. I've never seen a Superposed or a Citori that allowed the barrel selection to be changed with the safety off(in the firing position). Dave's last points are well taken, also. If you don't have the patience or mechanical ability to fix a problem with some good advice, don't waste our time asking how. This is like the typical woman calling an auto repair radio show asking how to fix a complicated problem with her car. I'm speaking of the woman who doesn't know which lever to pull to open the engine compartment and doesn't even own a screwdriver. Some, I'm sure, are quite able, but most are not and wouldn't know what to do with the information, even if they were given the bullseye perfect answer.