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JayCee #91018 04/10/08 01:17 PM
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I find it both interesting and gratifying that guns can serve as the canvas for art from the severly unadorned funeral models to the work of an unfettered artist of formidable skill and imagination.

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I'm curious as to how a master engraver prices his work. Does he give an estimate based on some hourly rate? What is a typical rate? Or is the job quoted as a lump sum, hard-money price?


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Skill of the engraver is obviously great as is his artistry. Afraid I would be pretty sheepish about pulling one of the gold encrusted guns out of its case at the range though.

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Rocketman - The completely unadorned "Black Widow" guns can be masterpieces, too - shape, balance, fit, feel, finish, etc.

OB - Probably as many ways to calculate an engraver's fee as there are engravers. Some generalities do apply: Best engravers cost more than so-so engravers.

Generally, the engraver has to make enough to feed his family and pay the rent. Coggan made the comment once that he had spent as much as 10 months on a single job. I don't know if he had any other jobs during that period. If this was the only source of income for the engraver, he has to earn at least as much as any other skilled craftsman, say a furniture maker, a stonemason, or a machinist.

Typically, an engraver will give a client a lump-sum quote at the outset, and will ask for a percentage downpayment before starting. The payment of the rest of the fee is due upon completion, or in instalments (for very complex jobs).

Stallones - I no longer build double muzzleloaders. Too much of a problem with TAF. They are trying to classify engravers and stockmakers as "manufacturers," and a manufacturers' license is a whole lot more expensive than a gunsmith's. I still like to shoot them, however, and if you have a specific question, I'll do my best to try to answer it.

Jay Cee - I mispoke. The book with the Mountbatten portrait was "The Art of Engraving," by Gaier and Sabatti. I'll need to learn to check my sources. It is a nice, slick picture book, however, with work by Ken Hunt, Coggan, Fracassi, Creative Art, and others.

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Bill ,
I attended one of the WKU gunsmithing courses with you in the 80's and remember the beautiful Muzzleloading double that you made. I have a pair of High grade Percussion breechplugs that someone should use if they are making a Percussion shotgun and wondered if you were still doing that area.
Leighton

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