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Gentlemen there is a Tobin 12b DB, Im' told it is a Side-lock. at the Kittery Trading Post, Kittery Maine.Several calls on it...They do come up with some "Good Finds" over there.Stephen Hutton is a 'Good Set of Eyes'& he is very knowledgeable in his "Field"..cc/dt
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Fortunately not everyone is as anal retentive as I am, writing down serial numbers and specs!! Dave, Your research is always from primary sources. As such, it is a true treasure. Pete
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Dave Please check your PM....
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I am able to fill in some details as to the final days of the Tobin Arms manufacturing company of Woodstock,Ontario.On the 15 July 1920, The Eureka Planter Company of Woodstock, purchased the building and assets of the Tobin Arms Company. Eureka was controlled at that time by by A.Little, who was one of the origional share holders of Tobin Arms! The manufacturing machinery at Tobin was sold by Eureka.They retained the Tobin building to increase their manufacturing capacity[ie;They made lawn mowers, small agricultural implements and metal castings] It is believed that they used part of the Tobin building as a pattern shop for their foundries.This is substantiated by the fact that they retained the stock of Tobin,s gun stock blanks in the building presumably for use in pattern making. Kor example on the 18 Feb;1933 they sold G.Crandall six stock blanks for $2.40, ["What a buy!"] This information was abstracted from the ledgers of Eureka Planter.
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I would forget it!!Look for a nice English gun
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I have two Tobins. Both are made in Woodstock. I have one with
the lug through the bottom and one without. The one with the lug
through the bottom is serial no. 18522 and the one without is serial no. 18976. Just thought you might like to know. Ron
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The Black Diamond with the Pyro-Oxidized black finish was introduced circa 1907 in Norwich and continued to be offered after the move to Woodstock, Ontario, Canada. In addition to the Black Diamond grade, Tobin offered that finish on any of their higher grades for a bit extra. Tobin was asking $20 to $25 extra for ejectors when Remington Arms Co. were giving them for $5. I guess that is the reason don't see many Tobin ejector guns. Even Frank's personal gun while the top grade, with a single trigger and the pyro-oxidized finish was an extractor gun. Is that pyro-oxidized finish similar to the finish seen on this Darlow Norwich? What, if any, is the connection between Tobin and Norwich and Darlow? Also, just as an aside I have seen this gun in person and it looks better than it shows in these pictures.   
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Very likely no relationship between Darlow and Tobin. I'd say the Darlow gun shown predates Tobin by many years. Actually after the turn of the century, say 1910 or so, the black receiver finish was quite common and in style. Tobin, Baker, etc used it here and many companies used it in Europe for their missnamed Funeral Guns. There is a good article on this black finish by Doug Tate in SSM a year or two ago.
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Ron Hunt,
Is that 18976 a Tobin Arms Mfg. Co., Ltd. gun or a G.B. Crandall gun? I'd love to see some pictures.
Dave
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