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#71409 12/13/07 12:51 AM
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I havent read much about the Baker hammer guns but I recently picked up a 1897 (#35272)model and have had an engraved boxlock hammergun for a while. How many styles of engraved guns (ie hammerless grade A, B Paragon etc)were there. I havent seen any other engraved boxlock models.
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I've never seen an engraved version of the A.C. McFarland designed trigger-plate action hammer gun before. The early guns made in Syracuse and then in Batavia had an underbolt and a dollshead rib extension. Later they adopted the wedge-bolted rib extension as on the hammerless bakers. The nice sidelock Model 1897 was essentially offered in two grades -- one with twist barrels and one woth Damascus barrels -- kind of like the hammerless A- and B-Grades. See the DGJ, Vol Nine, Iss 3.

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As Researcher said, these are a trigger plate action instead of a boxlock. Neat guns really and very attractive when new. In the DGJ article written by Daryl Hallquist on Baker hammer guns, there is an engraved triggerplate one shown. A different pattern than the one that Ross shows.
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Does anybody have a date of production/serial number list for Bakers? The 1897 has the extra lugs on the barrel like the early A/B grade hammerless guns but a much higher serial number.
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The Double Gun Journal Vol 14 No. 4 (and Daryl)
And I've added your great pics to the 'Baker Gun and Forging' album Ross-thanks!

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Great pics, My 1897 is a 16, less engraving than the one pictured, It has the damascus barrels and seems to be (pattern) as the barrels pictured on the trigger plate acton gun.
I do not recall seeing any 1897's
for sale in 16 ga. are they uncommon??

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Ross, your triggerplate gun is neat. I have only seen three of this model New Baker with Damascus barrels and engraving. The serial no. is out of sequence, though. It is in the Model 1897 range. I think the 1888 or so flyer on the New Baker [two of which are erroneously dated in the 1870s by Abby Books] shows an engraved triggerplate gun. Yours has more engraving [etching] than the others. Seen the DGJ article for dates on hammer guns.


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