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I recently picked up this Webley & Scott 12 gauage. The action is tight and the bores excellent. I'm told #68,327 would have been made in 1904. It has 2 3/4" chambers and was nitro proofed for 1 1/4 oz. The barrels are 30" and marked mod choke and full choke ahead of the flats. A friend said that would indicate it was made for export to North America. I looked at a 1914 catalogue and the action seems to have some of the features of a W.C. Scott action (cross bolt) and some from the Webley. It has an auto safety and the word safe is in gold. The forend pulls off and the extractors are raised by a piece on the forend, not the action. It has a black ribbed plastic? butt plate. Was this a common action design? How would it be described, just as a boxlock? At 7lb 9oz it isn't a lightweight. Would this be a typical fowling piece from that time period? It looks original to me but I haven't much experience with SxS guns. I hope there aren't too many pictures. Any comments you might have would be appreciated. Thank you.

Is it marked 3 inch chambers ?

I avoid old English stuff like the plague, but prior to 1989 a gun with 3" chamber should carry 3&1/2 tons per square box or 1200kg/sq.cm proof. Me thinks Anglo 1&1/4oz MAX means 2&3/4" spent cartridge.

I sorry jOe and PJ, that should have been 2 3/4" chambers not 3". I'll edit my first post. There aren't any chamber length or pressure stamps. I didn't include a picture of the water table. It only has the serial number, the flaming stack? trademark and the Birmingham view mark. It also has disc set strikers. Thank you.

Would you please explain why you have made this statement?
Jim

PJ....I wish everyone would avoid it.

Nice gun I think Webley owned W & C Scott when that gun was made.
Were the factories kept seperate ?

Dubeltowki angielskie maja nastepujace zalety: bardzo rownomierny rozsiew srucin, duza regularnosc trafien od strzalu do strzalu, doskonale wywazenie i zbalansowanie broni oraz skladnosc. Juz przy zlozeniu odczuwa sie wyraznie dodatnia roznice w porownaniu z wiekszoscia konwencjonalnych dubeltowek spotykanych na kontynencie.
Dubletowki angielskie po prostu lepiej leza, a wiercenia ich luf -1/4 czoku w prawej i 3/4 choku w lewej-odpowiadaja na ogol optymalnie najczestszym rodzajom polowan i umozliwiaja osiaganie na nich lepszych wynikow nawet przecietnym strzelcom.
PS. JoE, now you should understand why people do not avoid them. Please check international SxS market and note that English ones consistently bring in the highest prices. My two paragraphs explain why that is. Now all you have to do is find a Polak willing to translate them for you.

PJ...you must've ate some bad cheese.

Is in Polish, anybody have grandmother in Chicago can translate? Tricky masterhunter. Fool everybody.

I think they amalgamated in 1897, jOe. I've seen W.C. Scott guns that have the same 78 Shaftesbury Avenue, London and Birmingham that is on the rib of this gun with the Scott name instead of Webley & Scott. According to the 1914 catalogue I have they maintained both factories. The guns and rifles were built at the W.C. Scott facilities on Lancaster Street and the pistols and revolvers were built at the Webley factory on Weaman Street, both in Birmingham.