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$3200? For an English, 12 gauge boxlock?
I think you are about 1/3rd high on that. 20 gauge, throws a wrench in that guesstimate.
Best, Ted
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I saw this thread and am curious how you made out? Have you shot it? Is it 2 1/2 chambers? Hopefully, this was a great find. I have noticed that Cabelas/BP prices on the used guns have gone up in the last couple of months. Some good buys show up, and good stuff that gets turned in. So, depending on the value they paid to the trade, it gets priced.
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John, you don't think those case colors are original do you?
"More important, we hoped that when Autumn came, the birds would fly"
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Sorry, meant to follow up on this post and flat forgot. I ended up passing on the gun, for a few reasons. First and most pressing reason was that it was off-face. With the forend off there was a very noticeable wobble. Secondly, it had pretty obviously been redone. Looked much different from the pics. The barrel blue and case colors were, to my eyes, simply too new for either to be original when compared to the engraving, which didn't match the crispness of the case colors and blueing The stock had been refinished as well. I also suspect the barrels had been honed. The bores were like mirrors and although I obviously couldn't measure barrel wall thickness, I was worried that perhaps they'd been hogged out because they were super thin at the muzzle and very light. And finally, it was supposed to be cased and there was no case shipped with it. A minor thing compared to everything else, but it still pissed me off. Other than that it was lovely, beautifully balanced gun and I really, really wanted to take it home (yep, 2.5-inch chambers) but in the end I had too many warning bells going off in my head.
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Sorry, meant to follow up on this post and flat forgot. I ended up passing on the gun, for a few reasons. First and most pressing reason was that it was off-face. With the forend off there was a very noticeable wobble. Secondly, it had pretty obviously been redone. Looked much different from the pics. The barrel blue and case colors were, to my eyes, simply too new for either to be original when compared to the engraving, which didn't match the crispness of the case colors and blueing The stock had been refinished as well. I also suspect the barrels had been honed. The bores were like mirrors and although I obviously couldn't measure barrel wall thickness, I was worried that perhaps they'd been hogged out because they were super thin at the muzzle and very light. And finally, it was supposed to be cased and there was no case shipped with it. A minor thing compared to everything else, but it still pissed me off. Other than that it was lovely, beautifully balanced gun and I really, really wanted to take it home (yep, 2.5-inch chambers) but in the end I had too many warning bells going off in my head. Good old Cabelas.....never fails! Good luck in your quest.....try Hill Rod and Gun Greg
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Sorry, meant to follow up on this post and flat forgot. I ended up passing on the gun, for a few reasons. First and most pressing reason was that it was off-face. With the forend off there was a very noticeable wobble. Secondly, it had pretty obviously been redone. Looked much different from the pics. The barrel blue and case colors were, to my eyes, simply too new for either to be original when compared to the engraving, which didn't match the crispness of the case colors and blueing The stock had been refinished as well. I also suspect the barrels had been honed. The bores were like mirrors and although I obviously couldn't measure barrel wall thickness, I was worried that perhaps they'd been hogged out because they were super thin at the muzzle and very light. And finally, it was supposed to be cased and there was no case shipped with it. A minor thing compared to everything else, but it still pissed me off. Other than that it was lovely, beautifully balanced gun and I really, really wanted to take it home (yep, 2.5-inch chambers) but in the end I had too many warning bells going off in my head. Good old Cabelas.....never fails! Good luck in your quest.....try Hill Rod and Gun Greg I ordered a drilling from a Cabela's somewhere, can't remember where. After going over the drilling it was immediately obvious we had different ideas of condition. It too was off face quite a bit. The the store owner who was doing the transfer said 'wait! That frame is cracked!!' Sure enough. Where the water tables meet the frame had a crack about 1/4 in. in front of the standing breech. I've not had much success trying to deal with other Cabela's in person either.
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What blows my mind is that knowing the issue with the gun being off face, my local Bass Pro where I had it shipped put it right back out for sale, and apparently it sold to someone else. Three out of the last four shotguns I tried buying from Cabela's/Bass Pro had issues, including one that was shipped literally with zero packaging, as in they stuck the gun in a cardboard shipper with absolutely no packing material around it. It was just rattling around loose in a cardboard box. Last year I bought a nice 20ga BSS sporter that had a rib so loose I could separate the end of it from the barrel with my fingernail. Two days later it was back on the website. The day they stop free store-to-store shipping and full refunds if you pass on the gun is the day I stop buying used guns from Cabela's/Bass Pro.
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Sorry, meant to follow up on this post and flat forgot. I ended up passing on the gun, for a few reasons. First and most pressing reason was that it was off-face. With the forend off there was a very noticeable wobble. Secondly, it had pretty obviously been redone. Looked much different from the pics. The barrel blue and case colors were, to my eyes, simply too new for either to be original when compared to the engraving, which didn't match the crispness of the case colors and blueing The stock had been refinished as well. I also suspect the barrels had been honed. The bores were like mirrors and although I obviously couldn't measure barrel wall thickness, I was worried that perhaps they'd been hogged out because they were super thin at the muzzle and very light. And finally, it was supposed to be cased and there was no case shipped with it. A minor thing compared to everything else, but it still pissed me off. Other than that it was lovely, beautifully balanced gun and I really, really wanted to take it home (yep, 2.5-inch chambers) but in the end I had too many warning bells going off in my head. All of that makes sense - particularly the refinished part. Colors that bright didn't look right on a gun of that vintage unless it was a never handled safe queen. That it is off face, and that's not mentioned in the listing for the gun is inexcusable for a company the size of Cabelas.
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That it is off face, and that's not mentioned in the listing for the gun is inexcusable for a company the size of Cabelas. More like SOP in the big shops.
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Hard to get good help these days. 🤭
Last edited by Jimmy W; 04/08/26 12:48 PM.
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