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re-proofed to longer chambers? Likely I would think.

The seller didn’t post a photo of the barrel flats. This is such a common mistake these days that I usually suspect he has something to hide. I’m usually not wrong, either. If it was reproofed in England, the flats would tell us that. If it is a shoe lump gun, we could see that. The length of the original chambers will be there, as well as any other alterations that were done in England.

I’m not sure a shoe lump is a reason to dismiss a gun out of hand, or, for that matter, to insist on a gun having that feature. Look around long enough, and you’ll find broken guns with barrel construction of all different types. Ditto the drop lock feature. Cool, but, so what?

I’m not the expert, but, 1933 seems like it might be a bit late for model C leverwork. Someone will know. The beavertail and the straight stock look like hot pants on a hooker that has been collecting social security for 15 years, out of place. But, if that is specifically what you are looking for, you do you. As to whether the drop lock feature is worth the premium in price on what is a 12 gauge English boxlock with ammunition requirements that are a bit specific, that is going to be your call.

$22K is a bundle.

Best,
Ted

Bobski,

Ask for a picture of the barrel flats. I think Gulfbreeze firearms is owned by LD McCaa’s father. LD is now running the WR shop in Florida. The gun has a vent rib and a Monte Carlo type stock. The WR C-Bolt is a WR signature on their guns and they still make guns with it today. It is an unusual gun, but it was probably ordered in that configuration. The “other gun” was probably opened to 2 3/4” chambers without a reproof since it shows 1 1/8 oz proof. Again get a picture of the barrel flats.

Ken

I have come to this discussion late and will only comment on guns I know personally. Back in the 90's I shot a J Dickson boxlock , most likely Webley and Scott finished by Dickson. I used it for grouse, woodcock, and clays. It was made in the 60's so 2 3/4" chambers 1 1/8 proof. On clays I loaded 7/8 oz and on wild bird I usually used 1 oz loads. Over 5 or 6 years I think I fired over 15,000 rounds and there was literally no wear. I have a good fried that had owned and shot heavily a David McKay Brown 12 with modern proof loads. He typically uses 1 oz loads although it is proofed for more. I am pretty sure it has digested more than 15,000 rounds and the lockup is as good as when new. My point is with modest ammo, at least in my experience, these guns will last.

id be shooting 3 drams in trap matches and would consider having that old trap gun restocked with a mc prince of wales style pg.
i'll give them a call and get some more pics .

and for the record, i do understand every old gun nearing 100 years old is a crap shoot as far as what will be next.
its just the lure of a WR trap gun strengthened to endure, that caught my eye.
i do thank all the inputs to steer me to a logical decision.