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Some of the early Superposed Brownings had the twin single trigger, appeared to be two triggers, but, the front trigger would fire both barrels in order, open and then tight.
Seemed like a really good idea. A few Darnes rolled out the door like that, and I’ve seen a few Larona (Spanish) guns with the same type of trigger.
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Ted I owned two 1931 Superposeds with Twin Single triggers. Really cool idea...the best of all possible worlds, it satisfied both the single trigger and double trigger fans all in one gun.
One clarification:- The front trigger of a Twin Single gun would fire bottom barrel first, then top barrel.
- The back trigger would fire bottom top first, then bottom barrel.
- ...or, if you wanted, you could shoot it like a regular double trigger gun in whatever order you liked. Front then back, or back then front.
The downside was that it was a pretty complex mechanism and could get out of whack...though I never had any issues with either of mine. A friend still owns the 32" gun and it's been fine for close to 20 years.
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Are not all triggers mechanical? What is a non mechanical trigger? Electrical? There's mechanical triggers and inertia triggers. Ok. I would consider interial triggers mechanical also, but I understand the contrast. Most shotgunners that know anything about triggers consider there to be a considerable difference. ...anyone who has had the 2nd barrel fail because the inertial trigger didn't work properly can tell share why. My daughter's 20 gauge Superposed Lighting often fails to fire the 2nd barrel because she doesn't have enough mass to make it kick over.
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" My daughter's 20 gauge Superposed Lighting often fails to fire the 2nd barrel because she doesn't have enough mass to make it kick over." [/quote] Have a gunsmith place a larger inertia block in the mechanism and it will work just fine.
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Have a gunsmith place a larger inertia block in the mechanism and it will work just fine. I could do that, but don't really want to mess with that gun. I'm moving her to heavier 12 gauge Superposed for a couple reasons. One to resolve this issue, the other to get help smooth out her swing.
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Geoff,
Wouldn't a cleaning of the trigger/block assembly cure it? I had it happen on one of my Browning's and a stock removal and cleaning with light relube solved it.
Hope this helps,
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My daughter's 20 gauge Superposed Lighting often fails to fire the 2nd barrel because she doesn't have enough mass to make it kick over. It's interesting how this phenomenon works. The recoil of the gun requires enough mass behind it to give the inertia block a "nudge" to move. I've seen the same thing occur with the gas operated action on a perfectly good Remmie 1100 in 20 ga. My grandson was so slight of build when he first began using it, at age 9, that the action would not cycle and reload. No amount of cleaning and lubrication would fix that. I even enlarged the gas ports slightly, to no avail. It would cycle perfectly when I shot it, but not with him. When he got older and heavier it began to work perfectly for him.
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I have a small covey of double-single trigger Brownings and never had a problem with any of them. They do not have a reputation for problems. Inertia trigger Brownings are a royal pain. If they weren't such great guns, I would sell all the inertia trigger examples.
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Geoff,
Wouldn't a cleaning of the trigger/block assembly cure it? I had it happen on one of my Browning's and a stock removal and cleaning with light relube solved it.
Hope this helps,
Karl The gun was virtually new when we got it and it hasn't had all that many rounds through it since then.
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My daughter's 20 gauge Superposed Lighting often fails to fire the 2nd barrel because she doesn't have enough mass to make it kick over. It's interesting how this phenomenon works. The recoil of the gun requires enough mass behind it to give the inertia block a "nudge" to move. I've seen the same thing occur with the gas operated action on a perfectly good Remmie 1100 in 20 ga. My grandson was so slight of build when he first began using it, at age 9, that the action would not cycle and reload. No amount of cleaning and lubrication would fix that. I even enlarged the gas ports slightly, to no avail. It would cycle perfectly when I shot it, but not with him. When he got older and heavier it began to work perfectly for him. It was pretty easy to determine this was the issue; when I shoot the gun, even with the light, low pressure 3/4 oz. loads I made, it's fine. I've never had any kind of issue. It only happens when my daughter shoots the gun.
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I have a small covey of double-single trigger Brownings and never had a problem with any of them. They do not have a reputation for problems. Inertia trigger Brownings are a royal pain. If they weren't such great guns, I would sell all the inertia trigger examples. I owned two Twin-Single trigger guns for a while. They're really great, and the one gun is the only shotgun I've ever sold that I regret selling. ...as of tomorrow, I'll have five Superposeds: - 1959 12 gauge Browning Lightning. 28" barrels, inertia trigger.
- 1970 Fabrique Nationale B25 A1 "Special Skeet." 28" barrels, inertia trigger. This is a really cool gun.
- 1971 20 gauge Browning Lightning. 26" barrels, inertia trigger. At 6 lbs...this is a grouse gun...
- 1974 Fabrique Nationale B25 A2. 30" barrels, mechanical trigger. This gun is almost unfired and has a very nice looking, and original, case colored action. Just a hair over 7 lbs., it's a keeper.
- 1977 Fabrique Nationale B25 B1. The gun in the pictures above. 30" barrels, mechanical trigger. It will be here tomorrow, so that's all I know at this point.
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