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You never know what's gonna set these "Grey Man" libs off. Keep your hammers cocked at all times.


I'm getting fairly good at ciphering what you mean to say when you screw up your word usage and spelling. As an example, the "Professor" meant to say "It is amazing how a couple of armchair keyboard artists know more about everything than people who spend lifetimes studying those topics."

You are welcome, "Prof". Glad to help.

We do potlucks at work. An [censored - come on man!] asked about possible lead contamination in my venison sausage. I killed it with an arrow. You just can't win with a minor few assholes.

Thanks Ted, the obvious doesn't need an efbombing buddy to empower. Anyone know if I can store sweaters with soft gun cases.

As a trained scientist myself, bachelors, and masters, with further post masters work,

And the father of one of the hardest, working professional scientists I’ve ever known, who, as I pointed out here previously, was on a team that won the Nobel prize,
and the father of a professional researcher finishing her dissertation soon , not in the neurosciences as the eldest, in the area of literature,

and my son-in-law is one of the researchers that brought effective treatment to the world during the Covid pandemic, finding the impacted proteins in the body that cause people to relapse and die in the second or third week of their Covid treatment, saving the lives of potentially millions, probably some of the people here even,

I think most of you idiots are full of feces right up to your eyebrows.

It shows me in black-and-white the sewer that the United States is headed down due to the leadership of people that think like you do.

You know nothing about what you talk about except for what somebody sent you over the Internet or some meme you saw over Facebook. You don’t actually know any researchers. You don’t know people that slave away for decades 50 or 60 hours a week purely because they want to solve the puzzle and make a living while they do it.
And if you do happen to encounter a researcher, I very much doubt that you tell them that they lack integrity to their face.


And then you come on here and claim that their opinions are for sale. They’re not for sale. They’re backed up by reproducible fact.

You can go along the rest of your miserable lives and believe as you do and it won’t harm you because the people that actually do the work Will keep you alive anyway no matter whether your opinions differ or not.

But if you actually think that the integrity of real scientists is for sale among professional scientist, there is no hope for you.

After making myself clear on this, I am done. You are free to believe as you wish and do as you do. It’s a free country.

But make no mistake You are wrong, And I think you are an idiot.

There I feel so much better.

And not a single electron that I wasted is going to change a single opinion or make any of you believe differently. Mores the pity.

Oh, and to help people understand what I’m talking about here, it isn’t whether I believe or don’t believe the what the impact of elemental lead on humans and animals is, or what we as sportsman should do about it.

It is specifically and precisely about the ignorant comments related to the selling of integrity among professional scientists.

Wow. Listen to this elitist, Audi driving faggit bloviating!! Way to go Cyndi Lauper, showing your true colors!!! Hilarious. All mad cause nobody’s gives a shit what he continuously yammers on and on about. Poor elitist CZ. “I’m so smart and nobody here cares!!☹️”

How’s about you just STFU for once? That’d be nice. Go waste your precious electrons somewhere else. No need to waste them here.
You’re fragile. That’s Italian for elitist asshat btw.

“It is specifically and precisely about the ignorant comments related to the selling of integrity among professional scientists.”

What buffoonery. You seriously think that some scientists haven’t sold their integrity? Good lord. If I hear about another climate or virology model that predicts the end of the world I’ll think of you immediately. F’ing clownshoes.

There. I feel so much better.

Well, thanks very much for that Stanly. I know it takes a lot of time. Perhaps you should go help out craigd now, before he gets too far into his cups.

CZ: I'm not saying all science is corrupted, far from it. I personally know and have worked with a number of very good earth scientists over the years. The environmental sciences are the ones I am most concerned about, and their interactions with the various federal agencies. I'm sorry that this has so incensed you but I have arrived at my conclusions after years of observation and experience in my work. As Ted mentioned earlier here, this country's recent experience with COVID is yet another good example of a corrupted scientific process (and I suspect that there may be others).

It sounds like you are deeply unhappy about our current political situation and I completely understand that. Many of us here had similar feelings when both Obama and Biden were in power.

We soldered on and you will need to as well.

It's sad that Clapper Zapper and the Nutty Professor have once again gone off the rails over the idea that we are justified in questioning and sometimes doubting Scientific Research...

...Especially when history and the literature is filled with examples of research being flat-out wrong... sometimes due to honest error... and sometimes due to corruption or intentional manipulation of data.

They are wrong, but unfortunately no amount of proof will ever convince them to retract, correct, or alter their position that Science and Research should never be questioned, or suspected of resulting from dishonest agenda driven or predetermined outcomes. Proof of this is found easily with minimal effort and observation. Just a few examples:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2592299/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientific_misconduct_incidents

https://bps.stanford.edu/home/insta.../instances-scientific-misconduct-general

I could provide hundreds more. In addition, we have a Legal System that has successfully sued the crap out of Corporations who employed the Scientists, Doctors, and Researchers who told the public that things like smoking, asbestos, and many other things were safe or innocuous. Interestingly, a large 1990's study by the World Health Organization found that second-hand smoke actually caused a positive immune response and a slight protective effect. It didn't fit the popular narrative, so was quickly suppressed.

The topic of lead ammunition bans comes up here often, and it almost certainly will again. Inevitably, we have conflict between two factions... one that is willing to accept the so-called "Science" that leads to calls for further restrictions on lead ammo... and one that looks at the data presented, and the reality of thriving eagle or waterfowl populations, and questions whether there is a dire situation that justifies further bans.

In some past Lead Ammo Threads here, I took the time to actually read many of the so-called studies that were dumped here by guys like Grouse Guy and other anti-lead advocates. I've mentioned many times that I found a number of very suspicious things presented as indisputable fact. That took me down a rabbit hole to reading much more on the subject. One big example was the very wide disparity in the quantity of lead found in the bones or blood of various bird species that supposedly constituted a lethal level. I could understand some small variation in milligram per deciliter amounts that would kill an adult Bald Eagle for example. I knew the lethal dosages would likely be different for juveniles, or birds of different species. But when these so-called lethal dosages varied wildly between studies for adult bald eagles, it was apparent they couldn't possibly all be right.

When I began repeatedly questioning things like this, the response from the Nutty Professor and Larry Brown was to simply brush it aside and pretend to IGNORE me. Guys like the Preacher mocked me and others for "questioning the science", but never offered good explanations for our questions or doubts. When proven examples of bad or junk science were provided, they were unable to admit they were wrong. And God forbid that anyone should mention that many of these studies were performed or funded by anti-gun or anti-hunting entities like The Peregrine Fund, The Humane Society, etc. In addition, ammo bans were openly pushed by anti-gun Democrats too, as another means of weakening the 2nd Amendment by making shooting prohibitively expensive. The inevitable result was bickering, arguing, and then calls for censorship by thin-skinned people who were afraid of the truth.

Then we soon see disingenuous guys like the Nutty Professor engaging in the same name calling and personal attacks that they claim are driving people away from this BBS. Predictably, he is calling Ted an idiot, and again suggesting that craigd is an incoherent alcoholic with nothing to offer. I hate to see his bullshit get deleted though, because it just enables him to continue getting away with being a complete phony.

Nobody here has said the all Science or Research is corrupt or the result of manipulation of data. The majority of Science has gradually lead to things that advance humanity and technology. 60 years ago, the Earth's population was around 3 billion, and famines that killed millions were common. Various doom and gloom PhD's and respected researchers were presenting what they said was irrefutable data. They were certain we had exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet, and things would rapidly get far worse. Science, technology, engineering, and advances in agriculture allowed the population of Earth to nearly triple. Long term, that may not be a good thing for humanity, but it does show the earlier PhD's and research experts were wrong.

I don't think you remember quite so many people being shot down in the street by federal agents during the obama and biden years.

I hope you soon begin to feel the effects of the demise of EPA you find so thoroughly awful. The national forest system too. And on and on. This is the time of year when when you love to troll this forum. Looks like 2026 will be just like 2025.

If all hardworking career scientists advocating against anthropogenic climate change are necessarily right, how come over 2000 other such scientists disagree? And why isn't the disagreement reported in the mainstream media? www.clintel.org. Same with COVID, how come many front line hardworking scientists disagreed with the WHO's and FDA's treatment and prophylaxis protocols? www.imahealth.org. Seems like the lead bullet issue is the same. No need to get all puffed up about it. Just sayin...