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An advertisement on gun trader.uk was posted on the Reilly line, purportedly SN 10448 (1857).  When the pictures were sent however it turned out to be 20320 (1876), a top lever hammer gun - much less interesting. What is interesting however is the length of the top-lever.  Never seen something like this before.  Any ideas why or what patent this might be? ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Mc0tajE.png) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/GNAZSmN.png)
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Is it a self-cocker? I have seen quite a few hammerless guns and rifles that used the top lever to cock the locks, the longer lever gives you more leverage and makes compressing the mainsprings easier. 
 
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Is it a self-cocker? I have seen quite a few hammerless guns and rifles that used the top lever to cock the locks, the longer lever gives you more leverage and makes compressing the mainsprings easier.It's a Hammergun Princess SKB. It's got external hammers, and each one has a hammer spur. So why would you need an additional lever to cock the locks? I suppose it could be a novel idea that came out of E.M. Reilly's Department of Redundancy Department 
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Just from the photograph so I am quite prepared to be wrong. That top leaver looks like it has been cut from a plate of steel with no rounded edges, also with that notch being cut to allow the leaver to pass the hammer and with the engraver not following the curve with his border line this is far below the Reilley  standard that we expect. I feel that is an after market alteration may be for some physical problem of the owner further down the lime. 
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I did blow up the above picture and the border top lever engraving seems to go around the notch .  I think the top lever shape is very similar to the Lindner sourced Daly, Golcher , etc guns. Could that gun be Continental ? ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/lgfyDTZ.jpg) |  
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I wouldn't give up shooting just because I lost the tip of my thumb🤷♂️
 
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Self cocking hammer guns were a thing dim wit, developed in the UK around the same time as hammerless guns. The really neat ones had ejectors too. You sure are dumb Karen. 
 
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Added a picture.  
 And, no thumb means you cock the hammers with the palm of the hand and also use the palm on the top-lever like an old Lefaucheux system.  Might make sense.
 
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Added a picture.  
 And, no thumb means you cock the hammers with the palm of the hand and also use the palm on the top-lever like an old Lefaucheux system.  Might make sense.
It would only make sense if one was grasping for straws and prone to wild conjecture. There was a much better and more attractive solution to the problem of a top lever that interfered with opening a cocked hammergun. It was called the fishtail top lever:https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6134 I think I would have preferred that option, rather than the modification that looks like it was hogged out with an angle grinder. It appears that one of Reilly's employees went by the name of Bubba. 
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Self cocking hammer guns were a thing dim wit, developed in the UK around the same time as hammerless guns. The really neat ones had ejectors too. You sure are dumb Karen.Oh, I've seen lots of self cocking hammerguns Princess SKB. My Marlin lever action rifles cock the exposed hammer when the lever cycles the bolt. I'm sure you would have shown us a self-cocking sxs hammergun that utilized the top lever for cocking,... if it was done. It wouldn't surprise me if you spent the last couple days searching for a picture of this rare unicorn Princess SKB. Imagining a Hammergun sxs double that is cocked with the top lever, while you are hitting your bong, won't make it real. 
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