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I have a Syracuse Arms 12ga I am attempting to do a forend for. The "carrier" as I call it is still with the gun so all I am doing is inletting the wood. My question is does anyone know what screw size holds the wood to the carrier on the rear end or the forearm? It is missing. A #8 is a little small and a #10 is too large. The muzzle end of the forearm uses a small wood screw. Mine has the little selector for auto/manual eject. Any help is appreciated.
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I don't know what size machine or gun screw your Syracuse forend iron needs, but 3/16"- 32 falls between #10-32 and #8 screws. I believe the forend iron is what you are calling a "carrier".
When I have a missing gun screw, I've found I can carve a wooden kitchen match or similar softwood dowel to fit loosely in the threads with a slight taper. Then I wind a small strip of aluminum foil clockwise around the little tapered wooden dowel or match, and screw it into the threads. Several wraps of foil is needed. Then I can unscrew it and have a pretty decent impression of the threads, which I can then measure with a digital caliper and thread pitch gauges. Once you know the diameter and thread pitch, Google can be your friend to determine what size screw you need.
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Yes my "carrier" is your "iron" so to speak. I have done as you suggested in the past. I was just hoping someone could by chance know. Normally I just use a small dowel. Thanks for the tip using the foil. Will give it a try.
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Yes my "carrier" is your "iron" so to speak. I have done as you suggested in the past. I was just hoping someone could by chance know. Normally I just use a small dowel. Thanks for the tip using the foil. Will give it a try.
JHolland It's not just my "iron", it's your iron too. Forend iron is the correct terminology for the metal piece that snaps onto the barrels and contacts the knuckle at the front of the frame. As you know, it also has the forend wood attached to it by screws. https://www.hallowellco.com/forend_iron%20-%20definition.htmSome shotguns, typically pumps and semi-autos, do have a part called a "carrier" that is part of the cartridge feed mechanism. I try not to get hung up on terminology, but it can be helpful to know when you are seeking parts or are trying to describe a problem.
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Syracuse arms, guns have a most interesting forend Wood. I refer to it as duckbill shaped.
I hope when you are done, that you can create a reasonable facsimile. I say this, because, SAC guns with the duck bill forend are not as common as some of us would like, so every one that gets converted to something other than the duckbill, is viewed as a loss.
With regard to the screw, when I get home, I can grab one and pull it for you.
But I will not be home until Monday.
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Thank you but I have already made a screw. I only have pictures to go by but I am trying my best to copy it as closely as possible. The "iron" for this shotgun has a rather unique little switch that converts it from a manual extractor to auto. It is a somewhat complex arrangement but everything is there and it works. First try was a bust but I learn from my mistakes and the second one is coming along. Thank you Keith for the terminology correction. You learn something new every day...
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I pulled up a picture of said duck bill forend and was after trial and error able to create a pretty good recreation. I have got to figure out how to post pictures here. Any good instructions on that? I found out one thing after machining and cutting in for the iron piece there isn't really that much wood left after shaping. Could be why the original is missing. Probably cracked and fell away or something. Very thin on bottom.
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My forend is complete and installed. Glad you mentioned the duck bill feature. Sure makes a difference. Can anyone help me with some info on markings. On the water table and underside of the breech end of the barrels is stamped the letter A and Pat. date of 1896. Also on the bottom of the barrels is stamped with a #2 and letter K. The are Vulcan steel barrels and the s/n is 36718 with 2 7/8 chambers.
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Your personal info says you are from Cochran. Cochran where? Being from GA i know that there is a Cochran, GA. But, I'm sure there are others.
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