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How common were these, makers?

I've seen one listed on GI, a William Powell. It never sold so the seller had the fake hammers removed and it looked like a hammerless sidelock again. It did eventually sell after doing that.
I heard that this was popular around turn of the last century as people were reluctant to give up their hammer guns.

Oskar: Was that one of those semi-hammerless guns?

The one I saw had no safety so I assume you had to cock the internal hammer with the external lever.

What is the name on the gun you see? Several makers had internal strikers with outside cocking arms. Moore and Grey [Grey patent], American Arms semi-hammerless.

Victor Collet

The H.Pieper "Rationnel" was a hammerless gun with a cocking lever on the left side but was prone to breakage.
Mike

Here's the Moore and Grey with the Grey Patent using cocking levers for the internal hammers. Gun is a 16 gauge, somewhat unusual for the period ca. 1870.

That M&G looks like it could have had a spare set of pinfire barrels. I makes a interesting transition from pin to center-fire.

A few years ago I saw a (I believe) a Lancaster with what looked like cocking levers but lower down on the lever was a striker to hit an almost horizontal firing pin.

oskar, here is the American Arms Company semi-hammerless. It is cocked with levers on the side and was offered in both single barrel and double barrel models. Most of the guns and buttplates list the guns as from American Arms Company, Boston, but the 1893 ad attached shows a pending move to Milwaukee, Wisc., and the name American Fire Arms Company. I am not sure that I have seen a gun marked from Milwaukee or a gun marked American Fire Arms Company
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