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Stan, another .410 video for you.

Excellent. I really appreciate the .410 videos he helps produce, and I appreciate you posting them, Parabola. Nice view on a late Friday afternoon.

There have been a couple statements I've heard him make on his videos that I Have disagreed with concerning the use of a .410 but all in all he's a great ambassador for the little guns. Can't help but admire his shooting when you consider he has only his right eye, having lost his left to a kid with an air rifle at a young age. Without the ability to triangulate distances he's had to learn how to estimate ranges the hard way, and seems to do quite well.

I have watched his video's before, he is a good shot, so I am taking some consolation in my 410 efforts, that he needed a fair number of 2 shots on each bird.

I would always take a second shot with a .410 if I were shooting birds like he was shooting. Just because a bird flinches at the shot, it doesn't mean he is going down. Besides, I'm not much of a shot.

Beautiful, but I understand about half of what Dave says. George Bernard Shaw: "England and America are two countries separated by the same language."
JR

I can't understand him but he sure can shoot...Geo

There is always a ring of dogs well back from the line.
Every bird that gets pricked is immediately chased down and dispatched.

Remember, every one of those birds is going to market. Too shot up, and they become dog food.

Ideally, every bird snaps its head back and falls. In reality, the dogs (which have better eyesight than humans) identify, and then sweep up every pricked bird. They are real marvels. Picking up hundreds, possibly thousands, of pricked birds every season.

Even the busiest commercial estates are free from half eaten carcasses laying about the grounds.
The pickers really do their job well.

I have a question for Parabola, or another possibly well versed in English choke designations . . . . pretty sure I heard Carrie and a reloading friend discussing different loadings suitable for pheasant or partridge, on another video, and mentioned favoring 3/4 choke in both barrels for these purposes. Given the fact that less constriction is needed in smaller bores to accomplish choking what would be the actual constriction range of a .410 with 3/4 choke, in "English speak"?

Hallowell's gives this, and I've always liked this chart for comparison purposes, but just what do y'all think Carrie would consider 3/4 choke constriction in his .410s? Would it be in the .013" - .017", as Hallowell's chart shows?

https://www.hallowellco.com/choke_chart.htm

Stan,

I suspect if I asked 3 different British gunsmiths I would get at least 3 different answers (possibly at least 6 if they wanted to differentiate between fibre and plastic loads).

Most would probably agree that it should deliver a 77% pattern in a 30inch circle at 40 yards with the specified cartridge but as to how to best achieve that it could be “Katie bar the door”.

as a newbie to 410 shooting I have much to learn. Recently I ran out of 8.5 shot so reloaded 8's. My 410 mentor and I were shooting together and I was really struggling on 1 particular bird. He asks me what i was shooting, so i responded 1/2 oz of 8's. What choke, I was using a gun I had acquired from him with .008 chokes. Without a pause he informs me when I went to 8's from 8.5 I was using 16% less shot, so needed tighter chokes to maintain enough pattern density. I have since gone back and shot that station with .012 choke and hit consistently. To hit these birds with 6's or 7 1/2 I would guess they were using something like .012 to .016