I hunted waterfowl with muzzleloader twice about 25-30 years ago. I used my John Mullin 9ga sxs circa 1856. Well, we would be sitting in the blind and the heeded would start to arrive. Well, I am not a great shotgunned AND of course I was shooting cylinder bore so I wanted to get them close. Unfortunately, the guys I was hunting with would stand up and start blasting away when the geese were around 80 yards away or more. I sat there and just watched the show. Went a second time and same shitshiw so that was it for me. Had no desire to use a suppository shotgun and would not have shot that far even if I did. Hunting is all about WHO you hunt with.