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Hope you enjoy this Stan

It won't let me watch it, Parabola. I go to a page that says for me prove I'm not a Bot and it locks down there. Any "ideers"?

Try going to YouTube and search “Fieldsports with Speed”.

Looks like great fun! I would love to try it with my FAIR Verona 30" .410.

Awwwww baby, you KNOW what I like! (Apologies to the Big Bopper)

Thanks, Parabola.

Interesting that he had problems over-swinging the lightweight Kofs he started with and seemed to do better with the 6lb + W&S.

I was encouraged by the fact that despite doing a lot more shotgun shooting than I do he felt 50% was a realistic target for him with a .410.

My FAIR (?) Italian made Rottweil weighs in at 6 1/2 lb.

I did make it to the .410 championship, a fun event even for a no-hoper like me.

My friend using my Rottweil managed 57%, whilst I trailed at 37% even worse than my previous years 43%.

It will come as no surprise that the margin for error with 410 is very small. I can shoot the same course and same gun and still have scores very a great deal. I shoot 20 ga more than anything. A friend that only shoots 410, but a great variety of guns consistently scores better. I chalk it up to him being younger, a definite better shot but also the fact that he always shoots 410. It is still great feeling of accomplishment when you have a good day shooting 410.

You will find that the 410 lends itself to pull away more than swing through. And of course if you’re shooting premounted with known trajectories, sustained lead.

You can probably bump your “50%” up a good bit shooting exclusively pull away.
There are various technical reasons for that.
One is overcoming the enormous physical difference between 9lb 12 ga w/ 1oz shot and 5.5lbs and 1/2 oz shot.

I don't know what style I use for my .410s exactly. But, as CZ says, shooting them definitely requires a different technique than does my MX8 12 ga. I had to "find my way" on the dove field with them when I started back using little .410 S X Ss at doves, maybe some 13 years ago when a friend gifted me a new Yildiz with 28" barrels. It is made with some type aluminum alloy action so it's super light.

I struggled, missing a lot, then discovered that I needed to begin my tracking of the bird with my gun long before mounting it. With eyes locked on the dove I turn my body at the waist, maybe even moving my feet some, to get good alignment to shoot, keeping the muzzles pointing towards the flying dove as I raise the gun into the mount. When it hits my shoulder pocket I move the muzzles quickly head of the bird and slap the trigger. There is no "tracking" the line of the bird after the mount. No sustained lead. Just a brief second where the bead pulls out in front of the bird and Bang! This technique is similar to what I used to do with the MX8 when I shot FITASC which is, of course, low gun too. As I sit and write this I guess the technique would be some type of "pull away".

One of the most disconcerting things for me each time I shoot a .410 at targets is overcoming the lack of recoil. I'm so used to the bump on the shoulder that not having it is distracting, to a degree. That may be part of the reason I so so much better with my 3/4 oz. .410 loads.