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I know that there is a sight that has this information. Picked up an (M. Möller Z.M.) 6.5x57 Mauser made during the Nazi years. Don't trust my memory to date it from the marks. Google has become just about useless, wanting to sell me something while not providing the link I need. Yeah, I should have bookmarked the page when I last needed them. 
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Mike,
Try the website Germanhuntingguns.com or post clear photos of all the markings here.
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I know that there is a sight that has this information. Picked up an (M. Möller Z.M.) 6.5x57 Mauser made during the Nazi years. Don't trust my memory to date it from the marks. Google has become just about useless, wanting to sell me something while not providing the link I need. Yeah, I should have bookmarked the page when I last needed them. Mike can you post pictures of the proof marks?
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Yes, I will get some pictures.
Was hoping for the website as I am really just looking to date the proofs.
German Hunting Guns didn't have, or I couldn't find, the information.
Hopefully later today.
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Mike,
The information on the website can be hard to find, if you are not familiar with it. I think you would find it under "questions and answers", then click on "identification" and scroll down. Typically, the proof date would be found near the bore/ case length dimensions and would be expressed as a number representing the month and year (such as 736 meaning July 1936). Since the rifle was proofed in Zella Mehlis, rather than Suhl, there will likely be another number under the date, this number is log number and identifies which number it was of the guns proofed that month. This number should not be confused with the date, but sometimes is.
Mike
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Mike,
The information on the website can be hard to find, if you are not familiar with it. I think you would find it under "questions and answers", then click on "identification" and scroll down. Typically, the proof date would be found near the bore/ case length dimensions and would be expressed as a number representing the month and year (such as 736 meaning July 1936). Since the rifle was proofed in Zella Mehlis, rather than Suhl, there will likely be another number under the date, this number is log number and identifies which number it was of the guns proofed that month. This number should not be confused with the date, but sometimes is.
Mike Here is a picture of a mauser: This rifle was proofed 1144 = November 1944 by the Zella – Mehlis proofhouse, “spruce in heart” mark. Reinhold Recknagel is mentioned from 1925 to WW2 as a gunsmith at Damaschkeweg 1, Zella – Mehlis. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/PIlv0al.jpg)
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Mike,
The information on the website can be hard to find, if you are not familiar with it. I think you would find it under "questions and answers", then click on "identification" and scroll down. Typically, the proof date would be found near the bore/ case length dimensions and would be expressed as a number representing the month and year (such as 736 meaning July 1936). Since the rifle was proofed in Zella Mehlis, rather than Suhl, there will likely be another number under the date, this number is log number and identifies which number it was of the guns proofed that month. This number should not be confused with the date, but sometimes is.
Mike Here is a picture of a mauser: This rifle was proofed 1144 = November 1944 by the Zella – Mehlis proofhouse, “spruce in heart” mark. Reinhold Recknagel is mentioned from 1925 to WW2 as a gunsmith at Damaschkeweg 1, Zella – Mehlis. Did you purchase this rifle on Gunbroker? I sold a late '44 ZM rifle on GB a few years ago. Cannot remember if Recknagel was the maker.
Mike
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Last edited by skeettx; 07/10/23 08:40 PM.
USAF RET 1971-95 ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/57865_80x60.jpg)
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Did you purchase this rifle on Gunbroker? ....... No. I bought at an auction
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