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I have an unfinished BLE action with Birmingham proofs. Still doesn't have top tang screw, hand screw or the slot for the safety in the top tang. It does have the stud and pivot screw for a "dickie bird" safety. The action is nearly identical in size and shape to a G E Lewis boxlock I have from the early 20's. Any info about what other companies used this type of safety system would be appreciated. Mark
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The presence of the dickie bird safety is a quality/price point indicator. It is pretty much ubiquitous in better quality boxlocks made during its period. There are no specific makers who used it that I am aware of.
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What is a dickie bird safety and why is it called that?
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Toby, thanks for the info. sxs if you look at the pictures in the thread Dan referenced there is a picture of the mechanism.
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I have always called it the Anson rocker safety as in the picture Dan posted. I never looked it up but assumed he had the Patent on it as I have seen several marked with his name.
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Sheetmon, I still don't know any more than I did before. If it's a rocker safety, I haven't seen the picture.
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First picture in Dan's link. What is hard to see is the spring below the L shaped arm. The lower leg of L has a point filed up to correspond with a point on the forementioned spring. It works on a break over center principle and rocks forward and back being very positive in both positions.
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I believe it's Anson's patent No.4513 of 1876.
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A 1907 Pape BLNE I looked at had this type of safety. It felt solid when moving off safe, but was too difficult to position back on safe by hand. The actuating piece that interfaces with the top lever worked fine however. The extra leverage was needed, and the size of the safety button would have something to do with it as well.
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