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I like your Greener a lot. With that engraving, it can't be their cheapest.
Brent, you could apparently buy a nice, sound hammer gun for 9 guineas in 1879. From Graham Greener: "Your W W Greener external hammer gun was made in 1879. It is a double barrel, double grip with dolls head extension to the top rib, central fire 12 bore shotgun. It was proved at 12 bore and is choked to 13 bore at the muzzle. The stock does not have a Prince of Wales type grip it is what is described in the trade as a half pistol hand and it was this type of grip that was mainly employed on guns intended for export. The gun cost 9 guineas when made or 9 and nine shillings in old English money a fairly plain, inexpensive type known later as a Dominion model."
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It is amazing to me that this kind of quality has lasted 135 years, and is still serviceable. Joseph Lang trigger plate action Pigeon gun, one of a matched pair. 
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An 1890's A&D BLNE...basically a hardware store gun. 
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I like your Greener a lot. With that engraving, it can't be their cheapest.
Brent, you could apparently buy a nice, sound hammer gun for 9 guineas in 1879. From Graham Greener: "Your W W Greener external hammer gun was made in 1879. It is a double barrel, double grip with dolls head extension to the top rib, central fire 12 bore shotgun. It was proved at 12 bore and is choked to 13 bore at the muzzle. The stock does not have a Prince of Wales type grip it is what is described in the trade as a half pistol hand and it was this type of grip that was mainly employed on guns intended for export. The gun cost 9 guineas when made or 9 and nine shillings in old English money a fairly plain, inexpensive type known later as a Dominion model." I would think that with the amount of engraving, even in 1879, that gun would be more than 9.9 guineas. But regardless, the inletting on that lockplate is spectacular and all the more incredible given that it is 140 yrs old now. That is one handsome firearm you have.
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Rob: that is not farm implement damascus! 4 Iron "Turkish" very similar to that used on Parker D & non-Bernard C.
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Agreed, Stan. Nostalgia for the golden age of shotgunning aside, the best guns produced now are better than any best gun produced in the past. Its a matter of materials, engineering and centuries of learned craftsmanship. Moreover, modern manufacturing has made really excellent guns available to a much broader range of shooters. Take the CSMC RBL for example. Its not a best, obviously, but its a truly outstanding firearm you can buy brand new for $4000. Add to that fantastic guns from Italy, such as Fausti, along with opportunities to collect fine old doubles for incredibly reasonable prices. We are truly living in the best of times.
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Drew, when I had it revived Abe Chaber told me it was a gamekeepers gun, nothing special, but perhaps "hardware store" is too cruel.
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I would say 1900-WWI. The best designs were pretty much settled on by then and craftsmanship was high. There are beautiful guns from earlier and the lines of fine hammerguns almost can't be beat but overall top to bottom I would take that early 1900s period.
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An 1890's A&D BLNE...basically a hardware store gun. RR, has that gun been restocked? Thanks, SRH
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