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Could not find serial number.
Last edited by albion; 03/19/20 04:48 PM. Reason: Information incorrect
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Sure, forward them on to me & I'll gladly post them.
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Raimey, thank you so much. Hopefully, someone will have an idea or clue about this firearm. The fitting of the barrels to the frame/face and underlever is so perfect that I don't think they are different makers. If anyone out there thinks an additional picture would help with identification, Please let me know and I can email them directly. Tony
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Welcome to the board Tony, lots of information and knowledgeable people here!
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Have you an image of the water-table / receiver? Henry Jones devised his lockup mechanism in 1869 I believe & with those large strikers, it just may be some Belgian offering from the 1870s w/ tubes or a tubeset from Francotte. What does the butt-plate resemble?
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Hi Tony, & welcome indeed.
you could use some sharper pictures to help us see it better though.
From what I can see, if it's a real Francotte it's a lowish quality one. It doesn't have the Maker & Patentee bit on the action side.....pretty low serial # eh?.
I'm more used to looking at Francottes from 1900--1940, vl&d, or vl&a era,
but I don't see the usual Francotte quality that often jumps out at me..
But I am no expert, hope fully Bob Beach, a Francotte historian can help you...I believe he is connected with Griffin & Howe Co in CT..cheers & good luck with it Tony...
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If proved by the Banc D'Epreuves de Liege the tubes should certainly carry the Perron and Provisional Proof marks  I can only assume the gun was made by Francotte for export to France or Germany? The Crown over AF should have 4 curved (not pointed) lobes surmounted by a cross (the Belgian royal crown). If not, it may be a knockoff. 
Last edited by Drew Hause; 04/08/19 06:46 PM. Reason: correct image
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I will email you pictures of the butt plate and watertable. The crown peaks are lobed, not pointed.
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As far as I can determine the Banc D'epreuves de Liege was established in 1888 and I'm wondering if Belgian firearms in the 1850-1880 timeframe were not required to have more than the perron or maker's mark. Thanks for the clearer photo of the A. Francotte maker's mark. It does match what is on the subject double.
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