I'm using an Italian gun by Luciano Rota imported by Tri Star. Model 411. 5th year now. It's been everything from an oar to a lock pole to what it's supposed to be used for. It's seen the bottom of everything that holds water including salt water bays. Hose it down w/ WD40 after every hunt and leave it in the barn til next time. 30-40 hunts a year. Cleaned after each season. Works for me anyway. By the way, on those 3" waterfowl loads, wear a bandaid on your middle finger, pad towards the trigger guard. It's beat but no problems. I'll get another when this one dies. 28" tubes, 2 1/4" DAH, DT, SemiBT, PG, a tad over 8 lbs. I had the cones lengthened and ordered skt & IC extended chokes. Maybe I just got lucky and got a good one though. Who knows? I hate endorsing something and then it doesn't work out for the other guy but mine is a good gun.