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#536772 02/09/19 03:21 PM
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Any of you experts know anything about D GRay sidelocks?

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I am far from an expert but I remember Grays of Inverness quite well. In my youth they were one of 3 gunsmiths in Inverness and the only one that had a selection of guns way out of my price range. I would think that anything bearing their name would be Birmingham made but generally of good quality.
They were in business c. 1901 to c.1988.
Their premises is now a bar called Gunsmiths so the memory lives on.

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The brand name will be level three (BV3), which is the most populus level and values at 2/3 of BV2 and 1/2 of BV1 . You will also need to determine the Original Quality grade of the gun; there is a lot of difference between a best work SLE (OQ1)and a plain unengraved grade 3 SLNE (OQ6). Difference between OQ1 and OQ6 is about 4X.

Post a photo is possible.

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Not sure if it is connected, but Gray and Co famously supply the Gray Stalking Telescope ........ still made by Grahams of Inverness. https://www.grahamsonline.co.uk/product/2079
This makes me wonder if they took over the Gray business and so may have records.

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It is very dangerous commenting on a gun from a few poor res. photos but I would suggest that the gun was made by P Webley or if later that 1897, the Webley & Scott company that came out of the amalgamation. As 300846 says above, perfectly good gun but made to a price. The engraving style is very much like many Webley made sidelocks I have seen retailed by dozens of retailers.
The lock pin pattern points to very simple back action lock: no interceptor sear and possibly no independent sear spring, maybe using the lower limb of the main spring to do this job.

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Thanks for the responses. I'm looking 5to just get one gun this year and am torn about how much to spend. 3 or 4,000 or a better one gun for 6 or 7. What I'd really like I can't afford

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I have a D Gray Inverness sidelock ejector. It is fully stocked all the way to the fences. I would like to find out how to learn more about the gun.

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Brookie, it is highly likely that your gun was made in Birmingham for "The Trade." Post a photo and resources here may be able to help identify it. "Made in the trade" does not denigrate your gun. Stocked to the fences is a styling que, but not one unique to best work guns. Hopefully, we will be able to identify the Original Quality grade for you.

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I will do that! Wasn't concerned about any devaluation or increase in valuation. I was perhaps informed (perhaps incorrectly) that it was not a Birmingham gun.

Thank you for your reply Will post shortly in a new thread.


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