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I have searched the site and haven't found what I am looking for.
 Does anyone have a list of steel-barreled 16 ga SXS's that are or were built on 20 ga frames?
 
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AH Fox first came out with a 20 gauge and then built a 16 gauge on that frame.  So all the real Fox 16s are on a 20 gauge frame.
 You can find 16 gauge Parkers on an "O" frame, nominally the 20 gauge frame.
 
 
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 fiery, dependable, occasionally transcendent
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Lefever 16 gauges, with an "XX" marked on the frame are built on a 20 ga. frame. |  |  |  
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The pre-Folsom Baker Batavia 16ga is a scaled frame. Not sure if a true 20ga size as no pre-Folsom 20ga guns were mfg, but my Baker 16 weighs 2oz more than my '28 vintage Sterlingworth.
 SAC mfg light wt 16's.
 
 Ithaca also mfg'd some very svelte 16's.
 
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So if you can get a 16ga on a 20ga frame safely was it really a 20ga frame to begin with? 
 A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC.
 Mineola, TX
 Michael08TDK@yahoo.com
 682-554-0044
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So if you can get a 16ga on a 20ga frame safely was it really a 20ga frame to begin with? Is the true scale of a frame the important factor? Or is adequate strength at minimum weight and balance enough? John |  |  |  
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One of the few guns made where the 16-gauge and the 20-gauge each had their own unique frame was the Remington Model 11 and "Sportsman" autoloaders |  |  |  
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The Kireghoff Essencia in both sidelock & triggerplate versions built by Jens Ziegenhahn & the versions that Ziegenhahn sells under his own name are available in 16 ga on a 20 ga frame. 
 I have one w/29" bbls that weighs 6 lb even.
 
Last edited by Brittany Man; 01/02/18 03:51 PM. Reason: spelling error
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