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Gil #475854 03/22/17 08:08 PM
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And besides, a little Pi R2 finagling shows that if the pattern is even at 80 yards given 8% in a 30 inch circle, it should be about 8.5 feet in diameter.

So, there's really nothing to this 80 yard shooting business.

At 900 fps average shot speed, and 40 mph duck speed, the duck on a 90% deflection shot moves about 15 feet during the time of flight of the shot. Since you only have to point to within roughly 6 feet of the eventual position of the target to get 5 pellets on the duck, it's wonder the shot can be missed.

8% patterns are clearly the key, and we've been wrong about striving for 70% patterns and 40 yard shots. Stupid us!



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Stan: At one of my clubs here they replaced a hard wired 5-stand controller that while far from problem free at least could be made to work with a radio release POS that causes delay after delay while they try to get 8 receivers to actually receive.

One of the touted benefits of the new system was that it was incapable of keeping score, and thus the operator would no longer be announcing scores during rotation and thus 'embarrassing' the shooters.

I referred to this as our new 'No Shooter Left Behind' program.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
Stan: At one of my clubs here they replaced a hard wired 5-stand controller that while far from problem free at least could be made to work with a radio release POS that causes delay after delay while they try to get 8 receivers to actually receive.

One of the touted benefits of the new system was that it was incapable of keeping score, and thus the operator would no longer be announcing scores during rotation and thus 'embarrassing' the shooters.

I referred to this as our new 'No Shooter Left Behind' program.



Oh, the shame of it all. I just can hardly believe the changes since I was a kid. My Dad was a stickler for doing a job well ..... "Any job worth doing is worth doing well". And he would not tolerate the "I can't" attitude. "Can't never could" was his mantra whenever he saw me approaching giving up on something. Somehow, in spite of my rebellious nature, it stuck. I never stop trying to improve, never stop trying to figure out why I missed a bird. Some would say I am obsessed, but that is not true. I am just driven to improve.

Forgive me when I have a hard time understanding those who accept mediocrity. There's room for all of us, I guess. Even if we're not all wired alike.

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Many thanks for all the replies.

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Stan I too had a father who did not accept that something could not be done. With enough leverage, effort or planning whatever needed to be done simply had to get done. And he was right. I came to understand all the mental effort to find reasons to fail would be better spent trying to find that peice of pipe so I could get the job done. Amazing what lessons dads can teach sons sometimes.

About keeping scores, many years ago I had a fellow club member who was always trying to beat me at everything. One shoot I had a hundred and he had that bridesmaid 99. While drinking a few beers later he proclaimed that it was only a matter of time before he'd be beating me to which I replied that I never kept score when I shot? Do you I asked? Yes he did he said and asked why I did not. You can not break 100 you can only break one at a time so your only score to worry about is a one or two. Be perfect on each shot. I said that when you hit them all you don't have to keep score because the best others could do is tie you not beat you and I intended to break them all and as long as I broke them all he'd never beat me. I could beat myself but no one else could. He laughed but did not understand. In the next six shoots I broke 598x600 and he never ended up beating me, others did. He soon lost interest and went on to golf. But it is the same in golf, one shot at a time. Thanks dad, my dad kept score and now I know why so that I would do it his way

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