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I have a Ernst Schlegelmilch 16 ga. Shotgun. It was part of 2 guns I picked up at the Las Vegas show 4 years ago. I only recently identified it, and that was an accident of sunlight being on the right spot on the receiver at the right time.
Anyone know anything about Ernst Schlegelmilch. All I know is it was made prior to WW1 in Germany.
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Last edited by skeettx; 01/06/17 07:50 PM.
USAF RET 1971-95 ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/57865_80x60.jpg)
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the thread. I had read through most of the historical stuff before. I corresponded with Dietrich Apel a couple of years ago and he asked for pictures of the gun. After reviewing them, he said I had a very rare example of an Ernst Schlegelmilch sxs with a patented schlegelmilch latch/safety/spring? He said I probably have the only one in the states.
It's a nice gun, well made too, but not fancy like some of the pictures I've seen. I was really looking to see if there were any other owners out there. Most all people talk of Thieme/Schlegelmilch..not just Schlegelmilch. Never seen one for sale either. When I bought mine,(maker unknown) I bought it because it has a nice looking receiver. Reminded me of a 16 ga. Ainsley Fox I have.
Thanks,
Carl
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There were several Ernst Schlegelmilchs, but images of the proofmarks may narrow the date & hence the mechanic:
Ernst Schlegelmilch who hailed from Herrenstraße & was probably one of the older mechanics - U.S. of a. Patent Nr. 356378
GUN LOCK - Nr. 356,878. Patented Jan. 18, 1887
Ernst Schlegelmilch who hung out his gunmaking shingle in the late 1800s @ Steinweg 40
Ernst Wilhelm Schlegelmilch a descendant of the tube making fiend Kaspar Schlegelmilch
Heinrich Ernst Schlegelmilch who was active in the 1930s....
And I'm sure there were more.
Cheers,
Raimey
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I'll bet you my 20 gauge Fox Sterlingworth that your gun is an Ansley Fox, and not an Ainsley Fox- I'm a Fox myself, and I know!!
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Raimey, I think the first Ernst Schlegelmilch you list is the maker of the one I have.
Run with the Fox, so sorry, you are right. I'm glad I did not make that bet. It's an Ansley Fox 16 gauge 30" AE in superb shape. Love it.
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Carl, any chance you could forward any images to me?
Cheers,
Raimey
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Sure, I have a bunch of family coming over today, so it will be tomorrow. Don't know how to post pictures on this forum yet so do you have an email I can send them to?
Carl
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