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Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge #463127 11/22/16 09:43 AM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177 bladeswitcher OP Sidelock
OP bladeswitcher Sidelock Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177	I believe it is a Belgian-made 12 gauge, probably made for a French shop/gun seller. Cockreil tubes. 65mm chambers. Somebody has removed the checkering, presumably in an ill-fated refinish attempt. Any thing you guys can add to my knowledge is appreciated. [img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/french%20double/french1_zpsyj7wwv41.jpg[/img] [img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/french%20double/frech4_zpsl2xwj03w.jpg[/img] [img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/french%20double/french7_zpssbfokn9p.jpg[/img] [img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/french%20double/french12_zpsh3jwbpq7.jpg[/img] [img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/french%20double/french26_zpsirpfcs8d.jpg[/img]

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge bladeswitcher #463131 11/22/16 10:28 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,245 Likes: 423 Great Lakes region ClapperZapper Sidelock
ClapperZapper Sidelock Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,245 Likes: 423 Great Lakes region	Medium quality Belgian made gun for French retailer. Belgian proofs seemingly mostly struck off. Begs a question. I'd closely check barrel fitment. Not much collector value, good shooters. Plenty around. FWIW, I id them like ducks for origin. The first thing that pops out to me. Inverted pin ends almost always are Belgian in origin. Out there doing it best I can.

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge bladeswitcher #463170 11/22/16 02:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,762 Likes: 462 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,762 Likes: 462 AZ but dreaming of KS	An old Dutreuil thread on Shotgun World http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=429133 and here http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...e6172d7d6ab57c4 It was made 1910 - 1922 (no lettre annale) and does carry smokeless proof. With the 2 muzzle constriction over bore markings on the right (only?) barrel it may have been reproved after honing 'JC' could be Joseph Cap http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20c/a%20cap%20joseph%20gb.htm PeteMs list does not have a 'NW' https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge Drew Hause #463173 11/22/16 02:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177 bladeswitcher OP Sidelock
OP bladeswitcher Sidelock Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177	Originally Posted By: Drew Hause An old Dutreuil thread on Shotgun World http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=429133 FWIW, I purchased the gun from the guy who started the Shotgun World thread.

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge bladeswitcher #463201 11/22/16 06:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,573 Likes: 165 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,573 Likes: 165 Iowa	Chambers still 2 1/2"? Sometimes they seem to "grow" without the appropriate reproof. French gunshops, although they had their own quite active industry, often seem to have marketed Belgian-made guns.

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge L. Brown #463202 11/22/16 06:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177 bladeswitcher OP Sidelock
OP bladeswitcher Sidelock Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177	Originally Posted By: L. Brown Chambers still 2 1/2"? Sometimes they seem to "grow" without the appropriate reproof. French gunshops, although they had their own quite active industry, often seem to have marketed Belgian-made guns. Funny how that happens . . . These have been lengthened. I shoot RST shells in it, though. Last edited by bladeswitcher; 11/22/16 06:38 PM.

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge bladeswitcher #463205 11/22/16 06:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,762 Likes: 462 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,762 Likes: 462 AZ but dreaming of KS	End of chamber and forcing cone wall thicknesses are critical. If the bores are not 18.4 = 0.724 it's been honed some more https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge Drew Hause #463216 11/22/16 07:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177 bladeswitcher OP Sidelock
OP bladeswitcher Sidelock Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 177	Originally Posted By: Drew Hause End of chamber and forcing cone wall thicknesses are critical. If the bores are not 18.4 = 0.724 it's been honed some more What could possibly go wrong? . . .

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge bladeswitcher #463240 11/22/16 11:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,083 Likes: 380 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,083 Likes: 380 North Alabama	Henri Dutreuil � Vitry-Le Francois - Arquebusier I concur on the JC initials but what about NW: Nicolas Warrant, N. Wilmont??? I can't say that such a mechanic existed. Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Tell me what I have: H. Dutreuil 12 gauge bladeswitcher #463251 11/23/16 07:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,573 Likes: 165 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,573 Likes: 165 Iowa	Originally Posted By: bladeswitcher Originally Posted By: Drew Hause End of chamber and forcing cone wall thicknesses are critical. If the bores are not 18.4 = 0.724 it's been honed some more What could possibly go wrong? . . . Probably nothing . . . unless the gun lost too much wall thickness as a result of the honing. But even with the lengthened chambers, better to stick with either 2 1/2", or else 2 3/4" hulls reloaded to low pressure.

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