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DR. G.M. is inscribed here, only other inscription on gun is "I.a. KRUPP STAHL" which is located just forward of the two gold lines on barrels 
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Barrel configuration is 16 gauge over 9.3X72R
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Looks like a Treff variant that experienced proof in Zella-Mehlis in August 1907 & wears tube steel from the Schilling forge. Looks like a V on the doll's head extension from the tubeset?
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Wow! Thank you. What do you see that gives you all that information? Place of proof? Date of proof? Schilling forge? I googled "Treff guns" and was able to see similarities in some of the photos found there. I'm not sure what you're referring to with the "V" on the doll's head extension. In the third picture above there is a screw head at the end of the rib, that in the photo looks like a "V". Is that what you're referring to? What about the "DR. G.M." in the fourth photo? The attached photo shows a much closer look at the doll's head. 
Last edited by gjk; 10/06/16 02:58 PM.
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D.R.G.M. - Deutsches Reichsgebrauchsmuster or petty patent/novel idea. Since there is an associated number might be difficult to pen down but I'll look for the Roux underlever blitz type action. But the signal indicators may not be far enough back for the Meffert Treff, then it would be a Blitz/triggerplate action of sorts.
S in a chevron is the mark of sourcing from the Schilling forge. Z-M proof date is 1 up from the bottom where the ledger number is for that month - 8.07 above 647?
Yes, the V is actually a screwhead.
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 Treff action, toplever. I'm curious to what the underlever mates or knuckles? And if that is the reason for stamping the novel idea on the floorplate? Cheers, Raimey rse
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