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Regarding weight.
The Sweet was typically 10 oz lighter than the standard. Plain barrels weigh 3-4 oz less than vent ribs.
My plain barrelled '51 sweet weighs in at 6 lb 8 oz, which makes for a really nice handling gun for an autoloader.
I shoot 7/8 oz mostly but it handles up to 1 1/8 oz like a champ if I'm shooting big late season Canadas.
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I like the front sliding safety on the A-5 better than the crossbolt, but I would like to hear more about the Remington with that safety. How old do they have to be to have that safety?
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My 116875 is not flush and is shiny in front of the receiver, so it has been modified. Now I know why it functions well with 2 3/4s. How do I tell if it is regular or speed load??
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If you have to hold the bolt release button to raise the lifter to allow you to feed shells into the magazine it does not have "speed load".
Stallones, With speed load you dont have to press the button, just shove the lifter up with the shell and feed it, if the chamber is already open the gun automatically loads that first shell into the chamber and closes the breech.
Bill, I have never seen a Model 11 with the trigger guard safety. I have always thought that they were all made with cross bolt safeties.
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If memory serves me correct all model 11's prior to 1929 had the safety in front of the trigger. I have never had a problem with mine.
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My A-5 16 gauge is clearly marked on the barrel as 65mm or 2.55905 inches.This is a 1927 gun,S/N 105861, according to Shirley and Vanderlinden. It has the safety through the trigger bow as does my 1951 Sweet Sixteen S/N X-457XX(1951).The only visible difference looking at them side by side is that the length of the bolt is shorter on the older gun.I bought the older gun in mint condition with all the original papers in the old "B" case.It has the solid raised rib. The other has a plain barrel with 70 mm chambers and that is the one that I shoot.
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Up through the 1923 catalogue the Remington Model 11 is shown with the lever in front of the trigger safety. In the 1930 catalogue it has the crossbolt behind the trigger. I don't think Remington ever used the sliding through the front of the trigger guard safety that was used on the Browning A5.
In my 1938 Browning Flyer it says the "Sweet Sixteen" was first introduced in 1937. While a Standard A5 in 12- or 16-gauge listed for $49.75 with a plain barrel, the "Sweet Sixteen" listed for $65.75 with a matted barrel!!! A solid rib was $8 extra and a vent rib was $14.10 extra on any A5.
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Sweet Sixteen:
Experimental starting in '30, test marketed in '36, introduced in Feb '37.
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I too remember the post from some time back about cutting out the center of the crimp, for functioning through the short ported gun. I do not recall the details enough to provide how he did it, but as I recall it would certainly be a far cry above & beyond grinding off the rim on a belt sander. As he did it I don't think it would affect the crimp strength that much as the base of the crimp was unaffected, only ¼" of the end was blown away. Grinding the rim would lose closer to ½" in length & virtually destroy all crimp strength. Where re-loading is practible the former method would leave a case perfectly adaptable for a top wad & Hardin crimp on the re-load.
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A postscript: My worst fears were realized when my buddy (a great hunter, but no gun expert) showed up on the doorstep with his new acquisition ... a full choke, 2.5-in. gun whose "great" condition was the result of a total refinish of wood and metal, including rebluing over polished surfaces still showing evidence of light pitting. You can imagine my silent struggle after he asked, "What do you think? How would you grade it"? I tried to soften the blow, but gave him the straight stuff. He absorbed the news slowly, as he realized he was already $200 in the hole on a gun that really needs a bunch of alteration to be the waterfowler he'd hoped it would be. It would be okay if it was a 12, or if he was a reloader ... he'd have a gun he could beat the hell out of with a clear conscience, but as it is, it isn't good for upland (too tight and too heavy) or waterfowl (no good off-the-shelf ammo available). I guess he could shoot turkeys with 2.5-in 4's. We've all learned a few early lessons the hard way, but I wish I could have helped him avoid this one. TT
"The very acme of duck shooting is a big 10, taking ducks in pass shooting only." - Charles Askins
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